Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[David_Nab]

Lamberts comments ..felt we were excellent first half and had chances in the 2nd....WTF

Oh and Benteke is out of Palace game ...

[Monty]

I could take the defeats if we were trying some cutting edge new style of play or implementing a sophisticated new tactic or formation, to give us an advantage despite having a cheap squad.  But we're playing the boring shitty old dark ages football that doesn't produce consistent results and is shite to watch.

I know it must be tough with the players he's got but he bought most of them.

It's not even dark ages, it's not even negative and it's not even specifically long ball: it's just planless. It's like they don't even train together, let alone practice pass-and-move in any sophisticated way - they just turn up on matchday and improvise, to no success.

[curiousorange]

I could take the defeats if we were trying some cutting edge new style of play or implementing a sophisticated new tactic or formation, to give us an advantage despite having a cheap squad.  But we're playing the boring shitty old dark ages football that doesn't produce consistent results and is shite to watch.

I know it must be tough with the players he's got but he bought most of them.

It's not even dark ages, it's not even negative and it's not even specifically long ball: it's just planless. It's like they don't even train together, let alone practice pass-and-move in any sophisticated way - they just turn up on matchday and improvise, to no success.

Nail on head.

[VinnieChase84]

Lamberts comments ..felt we were excellent first half and had chances in the 2nd....WTF

Oh and Benteke is out of Palace game ...

Dear god

[ktvillan]

I seem to recall one of the reasons, maybe the main reason,  given for disposing of the "services" of TSM was the desire for a more "compelling brand of football".  I'm afraid Lambert's brand of football is currently as compelling as sticking a red hot knitting needle up your jap's eye.

[curiousorange]

Lamberts comments ..felt we were excellent first half and had chances in the 2nd....WTF

Oh and Benteke is out of Palace game ...

Dear god

Yes, but it's not an 8-0...

[pooligan]

Hello Chaps, i stated at the start of the week after Spurs had followed the baggies lead and sacked their manager ,that Lambert was lucky too be in a job and was shot down by some on here. One poster on here even said  "lucky" we are 11th  .Unless we get rid of this clueless bloke , there is  only one place we are headed and that is the championship.

[saunders_heroes]

It doesn't matter what style of football we play, the players are just not Premier League standard. Things won't change till Lerner realises he has to fill our squad with Premier League players and not lower league dross.
Nothing will change until this happens.

[Steve kirk]

I am fuckin dreading going to the Palace game, I am supposed to look forward to matches ffs, gotta lift myself as off out on a xmas night out but its so hard.

[Monty]

I seem to recall one of the reasons, maybe the main reason,  given for disposing of the "services" of TSM was the desire for a more "compelling brand of football".  I'm afraid Lambert's brand of football is currently as compelling as sticking a red hot knitting needle up your jap's eye.

The difference is he knows it's rubbish and is trying to make it better. I do agree that he may not be able to, but the difference between him and McLeish is stark.

[villa `cross the mersey]

I seem to recall one of the reasons, maybe the main reason,  given for disposing of the "services" of TSM was the desire for a more "compelling brand of football".  I'm afraid Lambert's brand of football is currently as compelling as sticking a red hot knitting needle up your jap's eye.

I am more compelled to opt for the second option than go to Villa Park this Christmas period

[curiousorange]

It would be helpful if we knew if Lambert really had no choice in his transfer policy, or if he genuinely thinks the likes of Bowery and Tonev are up to the task of competing with your Silvas and Suarezes.

[Legion]

Charlie Adam goal

[saunders_heroes]

I seem to recall one of the reasons, maybe the main reason,  given for disposing of the "services" of TSM was the desire for a more "compelling brand of football".  I'm afraid Lambert's brand of football is currently as compelling as sticking a red hot knitting needle up your jap's eye.

The difference is he knows it's rubbish and is trying to make it better. I do agree that he may not be able to, but the difference between him and McLeish is stark.

When we sacked McLeish we thought the bad times were behind us, but can anyone genuinely claim things are better since then? It's worse in my opinion. McLeish was made a scapegoat because of where he came from. Lambert has got away with absolute murder since he arrived serving up some of the most humiliating results in our history, yet here he is still in a job. I think that just about sums up what Randy Lerner thinks of Aston Villa.

[paul_e]

My biggest complaint today is that he brought Bowery on.  I have nothing major against Bowery, he works had and seems a decent lad but he's not the player to bring on just after you've equalised and need to build a bit of pressure.  Our bench was weak today as we have a fair few injuries but Robinson on the bench in place of Bowery and we'd have had a natural replacement to put wide left.  As it was the sub just broke our shape completely.

As for Lamberts comments, we were the better side for the first half hour and it was pretty even for the rest of the half, they then scored because we turned off after giving away a free kick on the halfway line and even then Baker was drawn in to easily which allowed Adam to chest it into space.

I think the comments on here about us making them look like Brazil and this being the worst team for 20years are all a bit emotive, we aren't creating enough chances, everyone knows that, and since our captain went off injured we've lost the balance in defence but the squad really isn't as bad as some people are saying.