How much more can we bear?...

[tom jennings III]

Performances have been poor recently, there is no escaping that and something really needs to change. However, I've been taking solace from the fact that we have taken a full 11 points more this season than from the equivalent fixtures last season (19 vs 8 points). Having said that we won the 3 equivalent upcoming fixtures last year and I don't see us doing that again unfortunately.

Not sure if this is of interest but here are the season vs season stats:



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[eastie]

Performances have been poor recently, there is no escaping that and something really needs to change. However, I've been taking solace from the fact that we have taken a full 11 points more this season than from the equivalent fixtures last season (19 vs 8 points). Having said that we won the 3 equivalent upcoming fixtures last year and I don't see us doing that again unfortunately.

Not sure if this is of interest but here are the season vs season stats:



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Interesting stats and makes me wistful  for the return of villadawg .

THose stats suggest a vast improvement but we will see how the next few games go.

[tom jennings III]

That's what happens when I'm bored at work.

I've put in Cardiff as Wigan, Palace as Reading and Hull as QPR fyi

[Fuse]

If we are still 11 points better off after the next three then it will be the best Xmas we have had for as long as I can remember

[martin o`who??]

Like most on H&V, i`m a committed supporter who "Puts his money where his mouth is" and buys his season ticket every year, but for how much longer??. The club do seem to be taking our loyalty for granted, i am pretty certain that a conversation along the lines of "These fucking idiots will keep turning up every week no matter what" has probably taken place in the boardroom on more than one occasion, WRONG!!, an increasing number of supporters are beginning to question the whole package. WE EXPECT TO BE ENTERTAINED, THATS WHY WE GO, Speaking personally i am just not prepared to spend half a grand a year to watch the team lose or struggle to a draw every home game, no one expects a champions league place any more but at least give us a side who wins its home games, Lerner needs to tell PL that this is the bare minimum, our home record is quite shocking and has been for four seasons now, losing at home to the Arsenals and Man Us is no disgrace, losing to, and making the Fulhams and Wigans etc look like world beaters is another matter entirely, at one time we would say "oh we should beat these", no-one says that any more, we`re Aston Villa for gods sake, we`re playing at home, Lets start playing like it, before the rows of empty seats start to turn into entire blocks.

I Stand by every word of this.

[Toronto Villa]

Really struggling to give him much more support.

[PaulWinch again]

That's enough now, 4 straight defeats finishing with losing to palace at home is too much.

[eric woolban woolban]

Much better managers have been dismissed for much less.

Grow some Lerner

[Glenn Peen]

How much more can we bear?

Nowt. Get rid of him.

[VinnieChase84]

No more. Terrible. Should have been booted after Bradford game but enough is enough

[myf]

If we are still 11 points better off after the next three then it will be the best Xmas we have had for as long as I can remember

how did that work out? by my estimation one point better off after an "easy" run and very poorly prepared for the second half of season

[SoccerHQ]

I'm starting to pick and choose my home games now. For someone who not so long ago hated missing a home game it's becoming pretty normal to watch us play at Villa Park in a pub somewhere.

It's not like it's a boycott or anything, money is tight and I went to Stoke at the weekend. Just decided Swansea would be the better game.

As I said a few weeks back, I don't begrudge anyone who decides enough is enough. We must be the most wretched team to watch at home in the league. Even bleeding Palace won twice at home in 4 days a few weeks back

Even today from watching from 20 mins on, we just have no idea how to create. And this was with a decent amount of attacking players on the pitch and at home to a very poor team.

I do wonder what on earth we've done to deserve this. We have decent loyal support and yet we see the likes of Southampton (in league 1 3 years ago) and Newcastle (run comically with Joe Kinnear as DOF) both above us, both challenging top 6, both good a decent amount of good players, playing good football home and away.

Yes we've made some big errors in the last few years but this seems a neverending cycle of misery. Even when we win a game or have a shock result the joy is shortlived. Look at our three best results of the season:

Beat Arsenal on the opening day, lost our next three

Beat Man. City, didn't score in our next 4 games and had two points from 4 games.

Beat Southampton, have now lost our last 4.

I don't think it's acceptable at all personally given the progress that was being made at the end of last season that increasingly it is looking like another relegation battle with us playing increasingly McLeish style football.

Just not good enough but we'll plod along playing caveman football picking up enough points to be o.k.

[PaulWinch again]

To be honest I've had enough of it now, we lose all the time and it's not getting better

[Fin Feds Dad]

I said on another thread today was the first time ever that I couldn't be arsed to go - I forced myself to go to fulfil my season ticket.

I have seen some poor sides down the villa over my 38 seasons - but not one as clueless as this lot.

No goals in the first half of any home games this far - the worst home record in all 4 divisions in the uk this season - the worst home record over the last 3 seasons in the whole of Europe .

It really is depressing.

[Irish villain]

Somebody at the club needs to shout STOP.

Year on Year we are breaking all sorts of records for being poor. Worst home record two years in a row, worst beating last season Chelsea away, not scoring in the first half of a home game and now you tell me no team in Europe has a worse home record over the past three seasons?

That is absolutely awful. I know there have been other bad stats and I couldn't be bothered looking them up.