Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[Dave Cooper please]

 and Luna is starting to get back to his best. 

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[eastie]

 and Luna is starting to get back to wearing his vest

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[Chris Smith]

Substitute any match thread against these since the late Neolithic period and save a lot of effort.

We were without both first choice centre backs, our best midfield player and Benteke performing like a poor man's Marlon  and were second best from the moment the first goal went in.  Baker is fucking useless.

[saunders_heroes]

Can't remember us having a left back as poor as Luna. He's absolute shit and he was embarrassing yet again yesterday. No wonder he spent the previous 2 seasons put on loan in Spain.
This is what happens when you try and do things on the cheap. Cheers Randy!

[Fuse]

Tactically we were awful again. Luna was awful but he had no support. We gave the ball away time and tiem again and never once ot in behind them as we dont have any creative spark in midfield. No creative set pieces - our corner delivery is attrocious.

All in all, I cannot believe the crowds we are getting to watch the worst football on show for over 25 years.

[PeterWithe]

At least Bakers incredibly poor distribution and positioning allowed him to fly into some tackles which was about the highlight for excitement, I thought him incredibly lucky, along with a few Utd players, to stay on the field.

Another thing, that Utd team has been shorn of a lot of the stars but I thought they played very well particularly Valencia, Welbeck, Rooney and Giggs

[PeterWithe]

I think Luna may come good, he looked the part in pre-season but he's struggled with the physical side of things and I wonder if his English is the best as he cant surely be instructed to take up some of the positions he finds himself in .

[Damo70]

At least Bakers incredibly poor distribution and positioning allowed him to fly into some tackles which was about the highlight for excitement, I thought him incredibly lucky, along with a few Utd players, to stay on the field.

Another thing, that Utd team has been shorn of a lot of the stars but I thought they played very well particularly Valencia, Welbeck, Rooney and Giggs

Valencia has written  letter to Father Christmas asking if he can play against us every week. Possibly the one dayi n his career he will be made to look better than Messi or Ronaldo.

[Fuse]

Luna doesnt look like he can tackle to me. He has let players glide past him time and time again this season. I think he is only good going forward. In the PL you need to do both.

Are we completely devoid of a decent left back at the club? What about the reserves/kids?

[supertom]

I think Luna may come good, he looked the part in pre-season but he's struggled with the physical side of things and I wonder if his English is the best as he cant surely be instructed to take up some of the positions he finds himself in .

There's no one really on the pitch, particularly minus Vlaar, who can keep people in check. Sometimes players like Luna, young, inexperienced and naive need a bloody good bollocking throughout the game to keep them in position. For Cleverleys goal too, Luna just gave up and stopped running. Cleverley isn't blessed with pace either. That was probably Lunas biggest crime yesterday. If we had a decent, experienced leader in the side he could have kicked Luna up the arse after that, or taken him to the side before kicking off again and just tell him to sort himself out. There's no leadership.

[saunders_heroes]

Luna doesnt look like he can tackle to me. He has let players glide past him time and time again this season. I think he is only good going forward. In the PL you need to do both.

Are we completely devoid of a decent left back at the club? What about the reserves/kids?

When was the last time we had a truly decent Premier League player come from the reserves/kids?
They're not good enough in my opinion. This is what happens when you cut back so hard you have to rely on reserve players, cheap foreigners and lower league fodder. The proof is in the pudding, so they say.

[Clampy]

Luna probably needs time some foreign players often do. People were saying how poor Vlaar was last season and now we're missing him.

[Legion]

Gabby?

[bobdylan]

One goal in the 1st half of the season, not that decent for a forward really.

[Chris Jameson]

I know he's Villa through and through etc and fast as fuck but Agbonlahor is a pretty ordinary player and the fact he's one of our better ones says it all really.