Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[Mister E]

I have to say that although the football on the pitch was utterly woeful, what's the point in selling out our magnificent stadium then sitting there in silence listening to them horrible twats making all the noise for 90 minutes?

Just what has happened to the atmosphere down there?

I have just got back and this was the overriding impression of being at VP today.
The away fans were ignored. Let them sing what they like.
The vast majority in the stadium where it mattered was silent. It was eerie.

I thought we did well in the first 15 minutes and in the second half from time to time. (Defending further up helped and keeping the ball;not being funny.)

It's not that fans are being tight lipped or bloody minded about the team. It's just that, for goodness sake, give us something to get behind! Everybody around me was cheering on sot to voce, then the move would break down.
Gabby discovered the crowd's potential for that wonderful minute when he bundled De Gea and got a corner.
I don't think that you could ignore the mass yearning for something to cheer.

Sort it out, PL.

Well said, Louise; you summed it up.
I drove back and spent the 2 hours mulling over the lack of buzz; not surprising, really.

[danlanza]

Lescott on loan, let's just get it done.

Plus Ashley Young and another, then we will be fine.

[silhillvilla]

Yet he buys Ralph Lauren jumpers? I'd have thought he'd have bought us branded gear on the cheap or an unknown brand hoping it would catch on

[tomd2103]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

It's not the defeat amfy - it's the manner of the defeat

Really?

So you've not seen better Villa sides than this throw away 2 goal leads?

The best thing I heard today was someone say at half time 'Cheer up - it could be worse, we could be 2 goals up!'

There was nothing in the manner of this defeat that was worse than previous years. We came out fighting, we'd had 3 shots in target before their first attack where they scored from a strike off the post that fell straight to one of theirs - of course. They're in a bad run but no-one was kidding themselves before KO that we had a better team.

A couple of injuries will hurt us more than half a dozen of theirs for a few years yet. (at least)

This is where we are, you can choose to carry on being angry about it every week or accept that this is your team. They're not the European Champions - that was 30 years ago. They're not the team that won the FA Cup the most times because we haven't won it since 1957.

This is your team Aston Villa 2013. You can get behind them if you like.

My own view is that despite the result this was be of our better home performances this year. Loads better than Sunderland. This isn't a fixture I particularly expect anything from. Maybe last week, before they'd already lost 2 in a row & before Delph's suspension I may have had some hope , but look at the re-match thread - who genuinely saw anything else here?

If that is the case then we're in serious trouble.  Yes we lost to them last year and have lost to them pretty much every year for the past two decades, but just think back to how well we played in the first 55 mins of the game last year and compare it to the turgid rubbish we served up today.   

[CJ]

I thought the atmosphere was pretty good for the first 15 minutes when we actually played. Then 2 goals in the space of 3 minutes killed off the atmosphere as well as the game

[eastie]

I thought we started brightly but once they scored twice in 3 minutes it was game over - after that I thought we did little in the remainder of the game and it was another poor performance to add to the growing collection.

[Des Little]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

It's not the defeat amfy - it's the manner of the defeat

Really?

So you've not seen better Villa sides than this throw away 2 goal leads?

The best thing I heard today was someone say at half time 'Cheer up - it could be worse, we could be 2 goals up!'

There was nothing in the manner of this defeat that was worse than previous years. We came out fighting, we'd had 3 shots in target before their first attack where they scored from a strike off the post that fell straight to one of theirs - of course. They're in a bad run but no-one was kidding themselves before KO that we had a better team.

A couple of injuries will hurt us more than half a dozen of theirs for a few years yet. (at least)

This is where we are, you can choose to carry on being angry about it every week or accept that this is your team. They're not the European Champions - that was 30 years ago. They're not the team that won the FA Cup the most times because we haven't won it since 1957.

This is your team Aston Villa 2013. You can get behind them if you like.

My own view is that despite the result this was be of our better home performances this year. Loads better than Sunderland. This isn't a fixture I particularly expect anything from. Maybe last week, before they'd already lost 2 in a row & before Delph's suspension I may have had some hope , but look at the re-match thread - who genuinely saw anything else here?

If that is the case then we're in serious trouble.  Yes we lost to them last year and have lost to them pretty much every year for the past two decades, but just think back to how well we played in the first 55 mins of the game last year and compare it to the turgid rubbish we served up today.   

Let's not be fooled. Both teams knew it was game over at 2-0' making the remaining 70 minutes a complete non-event. We rolled over and they patted our bellies. Utter garbage.

[Fin Feds Dad]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

My take on things too.

Garbage - even Cardiff competed against them. Our lot surrendered . Not one player pressed Giggs or Rooney.

[Small Rodent]

I totally disagree with the SVC "physical strength" observation

I think it is mental strength. Hence the early giving of goals in matches.

[Louzie0]

I have to say that although the football on the pitch was utterly woeful, what's the point in selling out our magnificent stadium then sitting there in silence listening to them horrible twats making all the noise for 90 minutes?

Just what has happened to the atmosphere down there?

I have just got back and this was the overriding impression of being at VP today.
The away fans were ignored. Let them sing what they like.
The vast majority in the stadium where it mattered was silent. It was eerie.

I thought we did well in the first 15 minutes and in the second half from time to time. (Defending further up helped and keeping the ball;not being funny.)

It's not that fans are being tight lipped or bloody minded about the team. It's just that, for goodness sake, give us something to get behind! Everybody around me was cheering on sot to voce, then the move would break down.
Gabby discovered the crowd's potential for that wonderful minute when he bundled De Gea and got a corner.
I don't think that you could ignore the mass yearning for something to cheer.

Sort it out, PL.

Well said, Louise; you summed it up.
I drove back and spent the 2 hours mulling over the lack of buzz; not surprising, really.

I've been to VP to see us end up losing before ( several times, and winning as well, over the years! As I am sure you have as well) but I don't think I have ever heard it so quiet for so long before today, MisterE.
 
If this is us giving a young team time to settle then fair enough. It must be unnerving for them, though.



 If it is, 'Man Utd, what's the point', then that is capitulation, and I am very surprised. It doesn't seem PL's style. It is very definitely down to him to sort it out though.

[London Villan]

I totally disagree with the SVC "physical strength" observation

I think it is mental strength. Hence the early giving of goals in matches.

I think the physical strength/size is an issue. Look how we were bullied out of the games vs Bradford and vs Milwall by technically "inferior" footballers.

[London Villan]

The team should be thankful the crowd haven't turned on them or the manager. Technically we are garbage at times.

[Archie]

I'am sorry to say this as I had always been a huge fan of Lambert since he was in Norwich's books.

But now his tactical inaptitude is proved beyond any reasonable doubts, and it induces me to think that the brave manager of Norwich is the brother of our Paul Lambert.

We do not have a game plan apart from catenaccio and counter-attack.
But we are Villa, the inventors of football, not  West Ham or Stoke!

[Stu]

Another capitulation to man u.

This fixture is a right off for us. It's as simple as that. They could field 11 amoeba's and win comfortably.

[Fin Feds Dad]

His buying policy is biting him on the arse.
 I wouldn't send him to tesco  to buy potatoes because he would come back with a spare tyre for a Segway .