Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[rob_bridge]

I think if we took on Holloway then we deserve EVERYTHING we get. After how he described us there is NO way his name should EVER be linked with that of our club.

Quite

[eastie]

@MatKendrick: In 2045 I can imagine Aston Villa boss Jack Grealish being asked by my son "Is this the year Villa finally beat Man United at home?"

[Des Little]

We gave up at 2-0. That is inexcusable.

[SoccerHQ]

Not keen on Lambert and wouldn't give a shit if he was sacked, but on the other hand whoever comes in under this regime is unlikely to make a huge difference. And of course, if by some miracle he did do a lot better, the key players would be sold anyway and we'd be back to square one. Unless someone is going to come in and make us no longer a 'selling club' the cycle of the past 15 years will continue. Be nice to get someone that could get us in a position to have taken advantage on days like today though.

A good tactician with a bit of nous could take us up a notch and make us look a bit more organised on the pitch.  Who that is, is another matter.

If you look at Norwich's season in the premier league under Lambert, we regularly rotated his starting 11 and changed systems. It worked. Norwich were comfortably mid table all season and were entertaining to watch. I don't understand how these managers can do well at other clubs then come to Villa Park and seemingly lose all tactical ability.

[Mister E]

Not keen on Lambert and wouldn't give a shit if he was sacked, but on the other hand whoever comes in under this regime is unlikely to make a huge difference. And of course, if by some miracle he did do a lot better, the key players would be sold anyway and we'd be back to square one. Unless someone is going to come in and make us no longer a 'selling club' the cycle of the past 15 years will continue. Be nice to get someone that could get us in a position to have taken advantage on days like today though.

A good tactician with a bit of nous could take us up a notch and make us look a bit more organised on the pitch.  Who that is, is another matter.

If you look at Norwich's season in the premier league under Lambert, we regularly rotated his starting 11 and changed systems. It worked. Norwich were comfortably mid table all season and were entertaining to watch. I don't understand how these managers can do well at other clubs then come to Villa Park and seemingly lose all tactical ability.

This bemuses me too, SoccerHQ. His tacitcal nous with us seems awfully limited.

[amfy]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

[silhillvilla]

Does anyone think if vlaar and Delph had played the result would have been different?

[ROBBO]

It was the result i expected, we have a poor squad, take the two best central defenders and the best midfielder out of that squad and you get todays result. Cannot see any improvement in the short term, Lerner will have acheived his low paid squad objective by the end of the season and as long as we are still in the premiership he no doubt will see it as a success.

I agree that Marc was the pick of the Villa players today but lets not forget that he is playing for his footballing career, he did however display a level of skill and commitment, he was a one off in a terrible team.

We have to face up to it, the experiment of buying raw talent on the cheap sounded okay at the time but Benteke apart i cannot name one player he has bought that i think will make the grade.

The next few games become very interesting, if we start losing to the likes of Crystal Palace and Stoke maybe even Randy will decide enough is enough.

[Legion]

Does anyone think if vlaar and Delph had played the result would have been different?

Yes. We'd probably still have lost or possibly drawn but would have done so in a better manner, if that makes sense.

[Lizz]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

My take on things too.

[Witton Warrior]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

It's not the defeat amfy - it's the manner of the defeat

[dave.woodhall]

@StrideSteve: Poorest Villa v Man Utd match and atmosphere that I can remember. http://t.co/MZ2fIx8tlu

I have a lot of time and respect for Steve but that was just ridiculous.

[eastie]

So many posts saying its so predictable, yet going on as if you're shocked.

We lost to Manchester United. It's what we do.

Please move on.

Surely we should aspire to beat them though, not meekly hand them the 3 points on a plate and accept thats what we do?

We were playing a team one place above us in the table , not barcelona - do we give them too much respect ?

[Mister E]

@StrideSteve: Poorest Villa v Man Utd match and atmosphere that I can remember. http://t.co/MZ2fIx8tlu

I have a lot of time and respect for Steve but that was just ridiculous.

I think he just about called it right: United were not particularly good; the atmosphere was pretty low-key and the Villa display pucntuated by some awful individual performances.

[silhillvilla]

Does anyone think if vlaar and Delph had played the result would have been different?

Yes. We'd probably still have lost or possibly drawn but would have done so in a better manner, if that makes sense.

That's what I thought. No way would Delph have let Giggs run the show.