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Offline supertom

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #225 on: December 15, 2013, 07:47:03 PM »
We could attract plenty of decent managers if we wanted to. The problem is Randy wants a budget manager to work on a tight budget, which limits your options.

I agree, whoever comes in I think top 8 is the height of ambition without a lot of finance - but the football might be much better to watch.
If the players seemed to have an idea what they are doing and we showed even an ability to do the basics, that would be a good start.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #226 on: December 15, 2013, 07:47:22 PM »
I think if we took on Holloway then we deserve EVERYTHING we get. After how he described us there is NO way his name should EVER be linked with that of our club.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #227 on: December 15, 2013, 07:48:16 PM »
The moral of today's match was if you give the ball away cheaply, you'll get punished against teams like Man Utd. I thought our midfield three were terrible.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #228 on: December 15, 2013, 07:48:24 PM »
I think if we took on Holloway then we deserve EVERYTHING we get. After how he described us there is NO way his name should EVER be linked with that of our club.

Totally.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #229 on: December 15, 2013, 07:49:16 PM »
I don't think lambert is good for avfc. We can dress it up but his tenure has been shocking so far. I wouldn't lose any sleep if we sacked him.

Replacement?
Precisely. Who?
Fuck knows, but if Lambert got turfed tomorrow I wouldn't shed any tears. I don't think he'll ever cut it here.
As for replacements we could say "I'd love x, or y" but fuck knows who Randolph would hire.

There are promising managers out there who may well fancy a try in the Premier League, I'm sure. A quick look online comes up with Solksjaer, Hyppia, Malky Mackay, Goncharenko (not sure about this one, but more research might come up trumps), Vito Pereira, Peter Bosz, Koeman....I'm sure there are planty of good coaches who would consider Villa, and the Premier League, a chance to move up the ladder.

I've actually just noticed that Hyppia's Leverkusen are doing rather better than I had imagined, so he's out. ;-)

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #230 on: December 15, 2013, 07:49:46 PM »
The moral of today's match was if you give the ball away cheaply, you'll get punished against teams like Man Utd. I thought our midfield three were terrible.

I actually thought Westwood was ok (not great not awful just ok).

Sylla and El Ahmadi on the other hand....

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #231 on: December 15, 2013, 07:50:01 PM »
I think if we took on Holloway then we deserve EVERYTHING we get. After how he described us there is NO way his name should EVER be linked with that of our club.
Surely not even Randy would be that foolish. Granted I'm saying this about the man who hired Alex McLeish, but Holloway? Surely not...

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #232 on: December 15, 2013, 07:51:46 PM »
@StrideSteve: Poorest Villa v Man Utd match and atmosphere that I can remember. http://t.co/MZ2fIx8tlu

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #233 on: December 15, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »
It's his Birthday tomorrow.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #234 on: December 15, 2013, 07:54:05 PM »
The moral of today's match was if you give the ball away cheaply, you'll get punished against teams like Man Utd. I thought our midfield three were terrible.

Would only really praise albrighton for a special mention.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #235 on: December 15, 2013, 07:54:45 PM »
Yep the Ellis reign was flushed with glorious home wins over Man. United of course....

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #236 on: December 15, 2013, 07:56:30 PM »
I don't think lambert is good for avfc. We can dress it up but his tenure has been shocking so far. I wouldn't lose any sleep if we sacked him.

Replacement?
Precisely. Who?

Well if we are going to continue in the vein of low budget players, then Sean Dyche.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #237 on: December 15, 2013, 07:58:04 PM »
Men against boys. We didn't physically compete with them and looked totally in awe of their team of nobodies.

Yet again they didn't need to get out of second gear to beat us very comfortably.

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #238 on: December 15, 2013, 07:58:11 PM »
Lets get Fergie to come out of retirement before the Utd job is open again! ;)

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Re: Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread
« Reply #239 on: December 15, 2013, 08:00:10 PM »
I haven’t read all the previous posts so apologies if I’m being repetitious. And I've had a few glasses of the falling-over juice to assuage my poor mood.

I’m pissed off: having supported Lambert’s candidature as manager and welcomed his appointment, I’m at a point where I think he has reached a bit of an impasse. Today we faced a Utd team which could have been taken down by a side with energy, passion and verve. Instead, we saw a team that proved to be every bit as flaky as other Villa sides of the last three years. Luna, Sylla and Baker were, simply, hopeless. All three made mistakes that turned into goals for a side that was not particularly threatening otherwise.

Along with Luna, Sylla and Baker, KEA is not a Premiership player. Furthermore, Benteke is going through what seems to be a nightmare of a self-confidence crisis. And the poor ball retention is frightening.

Taken all into account Lambert really does not seem to know what to do about it all: his tactical options are limited; his substitutions are too little too late; his half-time talks seemingly ineffectual.

The choice of MF seems to me to be critical in top-class footie these days: today, We saw a poor Sylla and a limited KEA team up, with Gardner and Bacuna on the bench. I said before the game, I’d love to have seen the youthful and technically-capable Bacuna and GG play as a breath of fresh air, alongside Westie. Lambert stuck with the tried and tested  … but ultimately fallible.

Any good points? – well, seeing Albrighton continually beat his man was great. Seeing a proper right back in a Villa shirt was good, and he played well. Seeing Clark look like a gifted, footballing CB was reassuring.

Let’s hope Vlaar and Delph make the difference we need them to, otherwise we’re knackered this season.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 08:03:02 PM by Mister E »

 


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