Fulham v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Salsa Party Animal]

Watched the game this afternoon on TV and had been disappointed with poor quality football. I am sick of crap and poor football from my team. I want football to be fun and enjoyable and played properly.

Possession is important as it keep the ball working and make the opposition do more work. We haven't passed the ball properly since John Gregory era. We alway a team mostly in mid / lower half table.

We have buy a lot of poor / average players under Lambert apart from Benteke, Jores Okore and Lowton. We keep using players out of position and use too many players off form, and don't use youth enough.

The club doesn't make me want to give my passion and money for the team. We need to look at Swansea and see what they are doing and stick to footballing principles and finding managers which stick to their footballing principles. Why can't we get managers like Roberto Martinez or Michael Laudrup.

I am sick of 4-3-3 ineffective counter attacking game. For next game I would chop and change the team.

Guzian,
Lowton, Clark, Baker (assuming Vlaar is out), Luna/Bennett (Who ever is fit)
Albrighton, Syvila, Westwood, reserve team player like Williams or Greaish
Benteke, Kojak

and Agbonlahor is not a captain. Maybe it is time to give it to Westwood to see if it inspire him to do more.

We need a winger, a playmaker, a powerful midfield general.  That mean finding next Dennis Mortimer, Gordon Cowans and Tony Morley to play with Delph. When Gary Gardner is due to come back from injury ?

Think not resigning Barry on loan is one of worse mistake we made this summer.

[Matt C]

Was Gardner a sub today?

[JUAN PABLO]

Was Gardner a sub today?

I know weimann was

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Watching Everton, their loans of Delefou and Barry have been totally inspired. Barry is just the type we need to give experience and Delefou is just the sort we could do with to open up a game. Inspired loan deals by them. It is a market we have to look at to help bring the young players through. They will mature, they will improve, but it was noticeable today the only really experienced leader in the side was missing.

the commentator summed them up perfect, a blend of experience and arrogant youngsters

you listening Lambert

It's not about experience or arrogance, it's about quality.  We can't afford players of that quality, of any age.  You listening JUAN PABLO?

so you reckon Lamberts had no money to spend   . oh dear

I reckon he's had about forty million to spend on an entire squad.  It's not much.  And it's not about the transfer fees, our wage structure would never allow us to accommodate players of the quality of Barry or Delefeou.  Which was my point.  But you clearly don't get it anyway.  Oh dear indeed.

[Louzie0]

Too much fxing perspective, that's the problem

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Watched the game this afternoon on TV and had been disappointed with poor quality football. I am sick of crap and poor football from my team. I want football to be fun and enjoyable and played properly.

Possession is important as it keep the ball working and make the opposition do more work. We haven't passed the ball properly since John Gregory era. We alway a team mostly in mid / lower half table.

We have buy a lot of poor / average players under Lambert apart from Benteke, Jores Okore and Lowton. We keep using players out of position and use too many players off form, and don't use youth enough.

The club doesn't make me want to give my passion and money for the team. We need to look at Swansea and see what they are doing and stick to footballing principles and finding managers which stick to their footballing principles. Why can't we get managers like Roberto Martinez or Michael Laudrup.

I am sick of 4-3-3 ineffective counter attacking game. For next game I would chop and change the team.

Guzian,
Lowton, Clark, Baker (assuming Vlaar is out), Luna/Bennett (Who ever is fit)
Albrighton, Syvila, Westwood, reserve team player like Williams or Greaish
Benteke, Kojak

and Agbonlahor is not a captain. Maybe it is time to give it to Westwood to see if it inspire him to do more.

We need a winger, a playmaker, a powerful midfield general.  That mean finding next Dennis Mortimer, Gordon Cowans and Tony Morley to play with Delph. When Gary Gardner is due to come back from injury ?

Because presumably they haven't got the desire to come and do a complete overhaul of a massive club like ours on a shoestring budget.  The job was there for the taking if Martinez wanted it.  He didn't fancy it.  Lambert had the balls to take it on.  He's not even two seasons into the job, don't write him off yet.       

[mr underhill]

I'm trying to understand the Lambert love in but can't, so  to help me better understand why the pro Lambert supporters rate him so highly, can you provide a cogent argument as to why he is right for us and exactly what he has achieved since arriving and spending a not inconsiderable sum of money to get us playing exactly like TSM did on much less?

[russon]

Lowton asking to swap shirts with Berbatov moments after our surrender had reached a merciful end speaks volumes to me. This is what we've become is it? Star struck Aston Villa youngsters pleading for a Fulham (yes Fulham!) striker to part with his shirt, what the hell is all that about? It's less than a minute since we've lost the game, the guy should be thinking of nothing else but defeat. If you or I were on that pitch we'd have to be dragged off it in desolation, yet he's got his tongue hanging out and puppy dog eyes pleading with the opposition to part with a shirt. Absolutely pathetic. We're Aston Villa, we are better than this.

[Dave Clark Five]

Lowton asking to swap shirts with Berbatov moments after our surrender had reached a merciful end speaks volumes to me. This is what we've become is it? Star struck Aston Villa youngsters pleading for a Fulham (yes Fulham!) striker to part with his shirt, what the hell is all that about? It's less than a minute since we've lost the game, the guy should be thinking of nothing else but defeat. If you or I were on that pitch we'd have to be dragged off it in desolation, yet he's got his tongue hanging out and puppy dog eyes pleading with the opposition to part with a shirt. Absolutely pathetic. We're Aston Villa, we are better than this.

Well said.

[eastie]

I'm trying to understand the Lambert love in but can't, so  to help me better understand why the pro Lambert supporters rate him so highly, can you provide a cogent argument as to why he is right for us and exactly what he has achieved since arriving and spending a not inconsiderable sum of money to get us playing exactly like TSM did on much less?

For me the jury is still out on him - I'm not convinced he is the right man but I'm not in the sack him now camp either - I think we should wait until the summer and see how things pan out - we are in a position that looks decent at the moment but with only 6 points between 10th and 19th we could get dragged into trouble still.

The next couple of months will be important and a couple of wins can do wonders - we need Vlaar back and benteke on form and I think things will be ok , certainly would bring Lowton back in at right back and there is no way Weimann should be in the side on form .

Regarding January i think an experienced defender on loan would be a good idea until okore is back and we are crying out for quality and creativity on midfield - as we have been for a long while now , this needs to be addressed as top priority.

[Ads]

What a waste of a Sunday.

The poorest we have played all season by some distance and against really poor opposition too. The lack of proper full backs needs to be sorted. It took 80 minutes for a cross to come in from the left because we have our 4th choice centre half playing as a left back.

Bacuna had an absolute mare, why he stopped for the soft first goal, I have no idea and I am also not sure where Guzan was going.

The midfield was so deep that there was a good thirty yards between the forwards. I am not sure what has been worked on during the week as our only tactic seemed to be to hope for Benteke to win a knock down for Gabby.

We were devoid of ideas and thoroughly inept.

The penalty decisions were farcical and bizarrely the game could have ended 1-1 as a result, but it doesn’t mask how desperately poor we were.

[eastie]

What a waste of a Sunday.

The poorest we have played all season by some distance and against really poor opposition too. The lack of proper full backs needs to be sorted. It took 80 minutes for a cross to come in from the left because we have our 4th choice centre half playing as a left back.

Bacuna had an absolute mare, why he stopped for the soft first goal, I have no idea and I am also not sure where Guzan was going.

The midfield was so deep that there was a good thirty yards between the forwards. I am not sure what has been worked on during the week as our only tactic seemed to be to hope for Benteke to win a knock down for Gabby.

We were devoid of ideas and thoroughly inept.

The penalty decisions were farcical and bizarrely the game could have ended 1-1 as a result, but it doesn’t mask how desperately poor we were.

Pretty much spot on ads , both goals very very soft but Fulham were worthy of the win and could have had more - I could not understand why Guzan went to ground or rushed out like that for the goal - the pen was soft and harsh but bacuna has been dreadful at right back recently and Lowton should be there .

Left back is a problem and when fit both luna and Bennett have looked ropey in the role at times - central defence when fit I'm pretty happy with - Vlaar and okore will be fine and Clark as cover with baker will be sufficient .

Midfield really is a huge problem area - Delph is superb but neither Westwood, sylla or kea are really convincing - Westwood is not the player he was last season and I thought he was awful yesterday , but we are short of quality and creativity in that area.

We need genuine width in the team and cannot keep playing Weimann when he is so off form - there are a few worries at the moment .

On the positive side when fit we have a decent spine to the team with Guzan , Delph, Vlaar and benteke .

[villa `cross the mersey]

A great weekend in London almost ruined by watching that pile of utter gash - are we really improving?   

[garyshawsknee]

Midfield definitely needs freshening up . Someone who can pass forwards and make a forward run to support the strikers.  Johnson and Gardner must be worth a look at right now.

[Mortimer's Bear]

A great weekend in London almost ruined by watching that pile of utter gash - are we really improving?   

Yes, this time last year we were in the relegation zone, we currently sit 10th.

Yesterday was a crap performance there's no doubt about that but it happens, let's see how they react next Sunday.