Fulham v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

There's no way that was a penalty, just no way whatsoever. He didn't make contact, the striker stepped into him.

Mike Dean refereed by guesswork today.

He's a truly awful referee, and he's far from the only one.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

There is no denying we were poor today, but as depressingly few people have reasonably pointed out, this is mid-table for you. We're capable of brilliance and muck, often in the same match.  We'll win some and we'll lose some.   What would you have given last January to be told that we'd be tenth by December?  And tenth in the Premier League at that?  I appreciate that people are sick of watching dire performances, that it costs a fortune to watch this guff, but the extreme reactions after every defeat are getting more depressing than the results.  A bit of perspective on here, even after a shitty showing like today, would make the defeat easier to take.

If people really can't see that we're making progress then they need to wake up. It may be slow, it may not be what you expected, but if you take Lambert's first year as a honeymoon period then this is his first proper blip; if you really want him out after his first poor run of form when we're tenth then maybe you deserve whichever Megson comes in to replace him.   

[pauliewalnuts]

To be fair, CB, I don't think anyone has said they want him out.

[paulcomben]

(Sidwell's goal was just one of those to shrug at. We all know he never has and never will do that again.)

Everton away, December 2007 - he scored a cracker ( hard to believe I know)

Superb assist at home to Hull City that time, too.
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I was sat behind him against Hull when he was a sub warming up and assisted that assist. One tiny magic moment for whatever fortune he was paid by Villa. I meant that today he stuck it in from an incredible angle, due to flukey timing and Bacuna not being a defender.

[supertom]

There's no way that was a penalty, just no way whatsoever. He didn't make contact, the striker stepped into him.

Mike Dean refereed by guesswork today.

He's a truly awful referee, and he's far from the only one.

It wasn't but like I say, those are given quite often. The legs came together, it was 6 and two three's. Because Bacuna was coming in from behind, it was always going to go the attackers way. A more experienced defender would have backed off, or tried to cover the goal perhaps. Soon as the player went to ground I new it'd be given.

For me the Berbatov decisions were worse, but it just seemed like a Berba wankfest day. The commentary were jizzing over him and he got every decision. He actually had a handful of classy moments but strolled through most of the game trying the odd showboat. 6/10 at best.

[pauliewalnuts]

There's no way that was a penalty, just no way whatsoever. He didn't make contact, the striker stepped into him.

Mike Dean refereed by guesswork today.

He's a truly awful referee, and he's far from the only one.

It wasn't but like I say, those are given quite often. The legs came together, it was 6 and two three's. Because Bacuna was coming in from behind, it was always going to go the attackers way. A more experienced defender would have backed off, or tried to cover the goal perhaps. Soon as the player went to ground I new it'd be given

But you said it was a penalty?

The fact they're often given doesn't mean it's a good decision. It wasn't even six and two threes, the Fulham player stepped into Bacuna and went down. Nothing like a penalty.

[supertom]

There's no way that was a penalty, just no way whatsoever. He didn't make contact, the striker stepped into him.

Mike Dean refereed by guesswork today.

He's a truly awful referee, and he's far from the only one.

It wasn't but like I say, those are given quite often. The legs came together, it was 6 and two three's. Because Bacuna was coming in from behind, it was always going to go the attackers way. A more experienced defender would have backed off, or tried to cover the goal perhaps. Soon as the player went to ground I new it'd be given

But you said it was a penalty?

The fact they're often given doesn't mean it's a good decision. It wasn't even six and two threes, the Fulham player stepped into Bacuna and went down. Nothing like a penalty.

It's part of this problem with the way games are reffed and inconsistencies, but I knew he'd give it as soon as the player went down. No it shouldn't be a penalty but more often than not, "challenges" like that are given. It's why as a defender you've got to be careful.
I agree though it's ridiculous but the letter of the law is confused, as is the way it's followed.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

To be fair, CB, I don't think anyone has said they want him out.

Oh they have.  Correct me if I'm wrong (and if I am I'll apologise) but I think Irish Villain has been pretty explicit in his views.  And AJK whatsit said:

"I'm sick of us being shit, don't kid yourself, we are shit right now. I'm sick of signing unheard of shit and im sick of making excuses up for why this week we wasn't any good, again.

We cannot pass the ball, we can barely control a ball. The better players all we already at the club and this scotch clown has frittered away the cash we had to spend. He can go fuck himself, the dour, boring, dull, unimaginative, excuse making twat.

I'm sick of them. And i'm sick of Lambore especially."

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.  A mildly illiterate post, but not a ringing endorsement.  I believe Richard Moore agreed with him.  I'm not sure I've read the phrase "Sack Lambert" anywhere, but the sentiment is loud and clear in some quarters.

[Jockey Randall]

There is no denying we were poor today, but as depressingly few people have reasonably pointed out, this is mid-table for you. We're capable of brilliance and muck, often in the same match.  We'll win some and we'll lose some.   What would you have given last January to be told that we'd be tenth by December?  And tenth in the Premier League at that?  I appreciate that people are sick of watching dire performances, that it costs a fortune to watch this guff, but the extreme reactions after every defeat are getting more depressing than the results.  A bit of perspective on here, even after a shitty showing like today, would make the defeat easier to take.

If people really can't see that we're making progress then they need to wake up. It may be slow, it may not be what you expected, but if you take Lambert's first year as a honeymoon period then this is his first proper blip; if you really want him out after his first poor run of form when we're tenth then maybe you deserve whichever Megson comes in to replace him.   

The most sensible post I've seen on here in a while.

Extreme reactions are not just on here though, it seems to be the norm for many football fans at the moment. I don't know why people put themselves through it when it just gets them so wound up and down about the whole thing. I actually had to move seats for the 2nd half of the Everton game because according to the people behind everything the team did was shocking and the whole team was useless. I've never heard moaning like it. They made it sound like we were playing against Tamworth.

[JUAN PABLO]

Watching Everton, their loans of Delefou and Barry have been totally inspired. Barry is just the type we need to give experience and Delefou is just the sort we could do with to open up a game. Inspired loan deals by them. It is a market we have to look at to help bring the young players through. They will mature, they will improve, but it was noticeable today the only really experienced leader in the side was missing.

the commentator summed them up perfect, a blend of experience and arrogant youngsters

you listening Lambert

[JUAN PABLO]

watching MOTD      depressed

[Sexual Ealing]

There is no denying we were poor today, but as depressingly few people have reasonably pointed out, this is mid-table for you. We're capable of brilliance and muck, often in the same match.  We'll win some and we'll lose some.   What would you have given last January to be told that we'd be tenth by December?  And tenth in the Premier League at that?  I appreciate that people are sick of watching dire performances, that it costs a fortune to watch this guff, but the extreme reactions after every defeat are getting more depressing than the results.  A bit of perspective on here, even after a shitty showing like today, would make the defeat easier to take.

If people really can't see that we're making progress then they need to wake up. It may be slow, it may not be what you expected, but if you take Lambert's first year as a honeymoon period then this is his first proper blip; if you really want him out after his first poor run of form when we're tenth then maybe you deserve whichever Megson comes in to replace him.   

The most sensible post I've seen on here in a while.

Extreme reactions are not just on here though, it seems to be the norm for many football fans at the moment. I don't know why people put themselves through it when it just gets them so wound up and down about the whole thing.

Absolutely. And going back to CB's point, that's not just mid-table for you, it's football for you.

Ask any football fan to explain why it's the best sport and they'll mention its unpredictability, its low unit of scoring meaning that upsets are more likely etc etc. Irish Villan suggested that he needs evidence that flaws are being corrected on a week-by-week basis. I think he's watching the wrong game.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Watching Everton, their loans of Delefou and Barry have been totally inspired. Barry is just the type we need to give experience and Delefou is just the sort we could do with to open up a game. Inspired loan deals by them. It is a market we have to look at to help bring the young players through. They will mature, they will improve, but it was noticeable today the only really experienced leader in the side was missing.

the commentator summed them up perfect, a blend of experience and arrogant youngsters

you listening Lambert

It's not about experience or arrogance, it's about quality.  We can't afford players of that quality, of any age.  You listening JUAN PABLO?

[JUAN PABLO]

Watching Everton, their loans of Delefou and Barry have been totally inspired. Barry is just the type we need to give experience and Delefou is just the sort we could do with to open up a game. Inspired loan deals by them. It is a market we have to look at to help bring the young players through. They will mature, they will improve, but it was noticeable today the only really experienced leader in the side was missing.

the commentator summed them up perfect, a blend of experience and arrogant youngsters

you listening Lambert

It's not about experience or arrogance, it's about quality.  We can't afford players of that quality, of any age.  You listening JUAN PABLO?

so you reckon Lamberts had no money to spend   . oh dear

[Sexual Ealing]

Not on wages, no.