Fulham v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[paulcomben]

Unless my ears are broken, Mark Chapman just spoke bollocks on MOTD 2. He said Villa are inconsistent because they failed to win against Norwich (1-0 Kozak), Hull, Sunderland and West Ham (all reasonable 0-0 draws). How much do these ill informed dickheads get paid to spout utter nonsense?!

[David_Nab]

Watching MOTD we didn't look to bad until the goals but the Pen killed us

Also showed that despite PL protests Experience can make a difference as seen by Fulhams midfield and Berbatov today

[SoccerHQ]

If you devide the league teams into these categories:

Lucky if you get anything
Tricky
Winnable

Sadly we are now on everyone's winnable list

Who come the previous 5 teams we played couldn't beat us? O.k on balance of performance probably two of those should've won (Sunderland and WBA) but the reality is we're a mid table team.

A mid table team will win some, draw some and lose some more. We'll pick up enough points from those below us to not have any relegation battle this season but frustratingly just when we have a chance to kick on after a good result we play and lose like today.

I'd be happy with top 10 this season, it's looking like it will just be sneaking into 10th but still it's small progress. I do have my doubts with this current policy when we can really challenge the top 6 again (which Everton and Newcastle are doing). At some point we will have to sign some better players and shock horror these guys will be earning decent wages at the clubs they're at.

Not sure we can consider ourselves as a mid table team, we are a bad run away from fighting it out down the bottom and bsed on the last 3 performances we are more than capable of stinging some bad results together.

We have 19 points on the board from a hard run of games.

If you devide the league teams into these categories:

Lucky if you get anything
Tricky
Winnable

Sadly we are now on everyone's winnable list

Who come the previous 5 teams we played couldn't beat us? O.k on balance of performance probably two of those should've won (Sunderland and WBA) but the reality is we're a mid table team.

A mid table team will win some, draw some and lose some more. We'll pick up enough points from those below us to not have any relegation battle this season but frustratingly just when we have a chance to kick on after a good result we play and lose like today.

I'd be happy with top 10 this season, it's looking like it will just be sneaking into 10th but still it's small progress. I do have my doubts with this current policy when we can really challenge the top 6 again (which Everton and Newcastle are doing). At some point we will have to sign some better players and shock horror these guys will be earning decent wages at the clubs they're at.

Not sure we can consider ourselves as a mid table team, we are a bad run away from fighting it out down the bottom and bsed on the last 3 performances we are more than capable of stinging some bad results together.

If we aren't a mid table team than with respect what on earth are the likes of West Ham, Norwich, WBA, Stoke?

You can't seriously say they're better than us. Yes Stoke beat Chelsea but that was a fluke, very similar to how we beat Man. City.

Despite all our faults there are many poorer teams than us in the league thankfully than in previous seasons.

[Louzie0]

Unless my ears are broken, Mark Chapman just spoke bollocks on MOTD 2. He said Villa are inconsistent because they failed to win against Norwich (1-0 Kozak), Hull, Sunderland and West Ham (all reasonable 0-0 draws). How much do these ill informed dickheads get paid to spout utter nonsense?!

Far too much.

As you said, Bollux.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

MOTD:
Dean fu**ed up with both pens - official - Hansen said it!

Sidwell goal almost pantomime. Confirms my seeing it live when I said "How the f**k did that go in?"

The Berbatov kicking at Herd (which I didn't see at the time) was his third foul in about 6 minutes - should already have been booked - wasn't - should've been sent off - wasn't.

On a scale of 1 to 10?

Big spiky stick shoved right up his a***.

Not that I'm bitter mind, just slightly vexed.

[supertom]

I was very disappointed how Westwood went missing today. In fact it was a disgraceful performance from a midfielder who's supposed to be our playmaker. He hid behind his markers too often. There were so many occasions when Clark or Herd stepped out of defence but had no option to pass to. Inevitably they had to play it long.
Likewise KEA was the same. He was non existent. In his case I think games just pass him by too often. In Westwoods case, from what I've seen too often this season, he goes hiding. He's also lost a lot of the composure he had between Feb and March. Back then he was always available for a pass. He then rarely wasted the ball. He's starting to look seriously out of his depth.
Delph again was head and shoulders our best midfielder, but he was below par too.

We've certainly got to sort out our movement. It was woeful today. Players stood waiting for passes behind their markers. No one making themselves available, forcing us to hoof hopefull balls forward.

[TonyD]

I can't for the life of me understand why "professional" players can not pass the Fucking ball to each other?

I thought my dad was posting on here when I read that.

And the money they are on these days.   

[coreyfeldman]

mostly Bacuna just got slagged for being out of position as a right back. possibly, that might be because he's not a right back. if paul fucking lambert can't see that but any twat who works for motd can see that, it's worrying.

when we have players who are fit and dropped for players out of their positions, what does that say? what does weimann have to do to be droppped? he has been consistently one of the worst performers this season, easily, yet is a cert on the team sheet. lambert seems to have gone from a manager who believed in width to one who actively narrows our game. why?

today was horrible, shit tactics, very little effort (gabby, guzan and herd apart), long ball. a team that had lost 7 on the bounce and we made them look good. don't blame the ref lambert, it could easily have been 5-0

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Unless my ears are broken, Mark Chapman just spoke bollocks on MOTD 2. He said Villa are inconsistent because they failed to win against Norwich (1-0 Kozak), Hull, Sunderland and West Ham (all reasonable 0-0 draws). How much do these ill informed dickheads get paid to spout utter nonsense?!

Far too much.

As you said, Bollux.

Louzie0 - are you on some kind of sponsored "bollux" thing?

 ;-)

[AVH87]

We have 19 points on the board from a hard run of games.

Wow. How much longer is this line going to be trotted out for. We are nearly at the halfway point of the season!

We've recently played the bottom 2 in this division, scored
0 goals and got 1 point.

[paulcomben]

I was out and did not watch live, so accept the majority of you on here saying we played badly. But, the MOTD2 highlights show that new manager syndrome affected the referee, who wanted/ expected Fulham to win. Their pen: not. Hughes on Gabby: pen. Berbatov on Herd: red card. (Sidwell's goal was just one of those to shrug at. We all know he never has and never will do that again.)

[paulcomben]

Unless my ears are broken, Mark Chapman just spoke bollocks on MOTD 2. He said Villa are inconsistent because they failed to win against Norwich (1-0 Kozak), Hull, Sunderland and West Ham (all reasonable 0-0 draws). How much do these ill informed dickheads get paid to spout utter nonsense?!

Far too much.

As you said, Bollux.

Louzie0 - are you on some kind of sponsored "bollux" thing?

 ;-)

Mark Chapman is, however his sponsor spells it. He knows everything including the names of the tea ladies about the top 5 clubs, but after that his small brain is too full to bother with real facts about the other 15 teams he is paid a fortune to broadcast about.

[Pat McMahon]

(Sidwell's goal was just one of those to shrug at. We all know he never has and never will do that again.)
[/quote]
Everton away, December 2007 - he scored a cracker ( hard to believe I know)

[pauliewalnuts]

(Sidwell's goal was just one of those to shrug at. We all know he never has and never will do that again.)

Everton away, December 2007 - he scored a cracker ( hard to believe I know)
[/quote]

Superb assist at home to Hull City that time, too.

[supertom]

I was out and did not watch live, so accept the majority of you on here saying we played badly. But, the MOTD2 highlights show that new manager syndrome affected the referee, who wanted/ expected Fulham to win. Their pen: not. Hughes on Gabby: pen. Berbatov on Herd: red card. (Sidwell's goal was just one of those to shrug at. We all know he never has and never will do that again.)

Berbatov got away with murder today. That for me was the worst part of today. But no excuse really. Fulham were by a long, comfortable margin, the superior side. Poor decisions can't excuse how feck awful we were.

I also felt Bacunas was a penalty. Technically it shouldn't really have been, but it's one of these where as a defender, you don't make the challenge. He's coming from behind, he makes contact and the attacker goes down. When the attacker gets goal side of you, you just don't give them an excuse to go down, he should have tried to get goal side of him or leave it to Guzan and try to cover the line. 7-8 times out of 10, those decisions go to the attacker, and it did. So for me, though it was harsh, it's one that mostly gets given. Naive defending. We got the decision with a very similar challenge against Arsenal.

Gabby's was also probably a pen. There was contact, but he did oversell it. The thing is though, if the ref doesn't give it, he has to book Gabby for diving, but he didn't, so his view on the incident is highly questionnable.

Again though. No excuses, we deserved to get trounced today.