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Author Topic: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 49297 times)

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #285 on: December 05, 2013, 05:08:13 PM »
Dear Southamptonelona,


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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #286 on: December 05, 2013, 05:17:17 PM »
Southampton had much of their possession in their own half because we actually played with discipline and didn't go chasing it. They couldn't do any damage in their own half so we let them get on with it.

When we needed to score, we did (we did after all take the lead 3 times) so all this claptrap about possession proves nothing except that we were far more efficient with ours. the other point of note is that the goals weren't flukes, they were all decent finishes.

We scored more there last night than everyone else put together this season. In addition, it was great to see goals from the strikers and Delph too. It's a very satisfying win.

Why some people insist on being negative and pessimistic after a win that puts us closer to Europe than the relegation places, having played all of the Top 8 teams is beyond me.

I don't see why people should be criticised for pointing out that the football we played was dire. I am as pleased as anyone with any win and the sooner we get to 40 points the better, but if we had lost that game the forum would have been full of criticism for a lack of movement, hoofing it to a striker who wants it to his feet, no composure, the manager losing his way etc etc.

There was plenty of criticism on Saturday when we only drew. Some even calling for Lambert to go. It's all very fine margins.

1. The football we played was effective, we won the match against a team that's flying high and in the Top 8.
2. Why are you focusing on us getting to 40 points? That's my point, you're being pessimistic.
3. 'If' is a very big word. In case you hadn't noticed, we didn't lose. Do you ever say 'if we'd won'?
4. They were wrong, Lambert is building something. It's not pretty all the time but results are improving, we've  young side that are learning and why we'd get rid of a young manager who is being relatively successful (given the starting point, budget and expectation), at this point eludes me.

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #287 on: December 05, 2013, 05:19:13 PM »
If we hadn't scored three goals away from home against a side unbeaten at home and with only two goals conceded, we wouldn't have won.

Lambert out!

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #288 on: December 05, 2013, 05:42:42 PM »
I fully back Lambert but myself and everyone I know are of the opinion that we are a long ball team and I don't know how people can say anything different. I also noted that with all Southampton's good play, every time they tried to pass if through us we defended it brilliantly. The only thing they could do that was effective was nock it wide and cross it high into the box, anything on the floor was cleared with very little threat.

I was slating Kozak the whole game. He didn't win any of our long ball passes, he can't run with the ball, can't take it past people but my friend simple said if we whip it in the box for him he will score... 5 mins later cross and goal. Kozak is no Benteke, he is a different player and Lambert should not try to play his as such. He would probably suite a play style with wingers much more.

Our defence don't seem to have a very good understanding with Guzan, so many time our back 3 would assume he is coming for something when he wasn't and so many time Guzan was expecting them to clear only to have to make a very late decision to act.

Can anyone elaborate on the Guzan handball? I thought he handled it, everyone around me did but as I have not heard it mentioned so it must have been the angle of my view and my bad eye sight.

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #289 on: December 05, 2013, 05:43:13 PM »
There is no "right" way to play.
If you just play the tippy tappy stuff all the time and expect to win, like any other tactical approach, now and again someone will clock what you are doing and plan to counter it - it doesn't mean it's wrong - it's called planning.
As soon as the team was announced last night another tactical genius and myself said the same - we're gonna try to soak up their pressure and go on the break.
Which we did - very well!
If we had tried to out-pass them would we have been cricised for being naive?
I like to think Mr Lambert & the team went with a plan...and it worked.
If Southampton fans don't like it they can f**k off and rely on kidding refs into giving shitty penalties. Is that the right way to play?
Twunts!
And as fellow genius Dave points out, at least 2 of our goals did not come from hoof ball.



....and both of theirs came from high balls lobbed into the box. Something they did the entire game.

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #290 on: December 05, 2013, 05:43:32 PM »
My boiler had broken down when I got home at 1.45 this morning.
2 Wolves supporting engineers popped in today and fixed it.
Inevitably the chat turned to football. They were glowing in their praise for the way Villa is run now we've stopped spending millions on average players a la MON, and can see that that PL is doing something that looks like a plan that has started to work after a tricky first year. They were admittedly envious, and I know it's all relative, but couldn't help feeling a sense of pride in the way we are going about things even if there are some tough times to endure, and that these "neutral" fans were very complimentary about my club/team.
House now toasty warm again and the glow that came with last night's amazing win continues.
Looking forward to Sunday and a good day out at Fulham.
UTV!

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #291 on: December 05, 2013, 05:44:05 PM »
Southampton had much of their possession in their own half because we actually played with discipline and didn't go chasing it. They couldn't do any damage in their own half so we let them get on with it.

When we needed to score, we did (we did after all take the lead 3 times) so all this claptrap about possession proves nothing except that we were far more efficient with ours. the other point of note is that the goals weren't flukes, they were all decent finishes.

We scored more there last night than everyone else put together this season. In addition, it was great to see goals from the strikers and Delph too. It's a very satisfying win.

Why some people insist on being negative and pessimistic after a win that puts us closer to Europe than the relegation places, having played all of the Top 8 teams is beyond me.

I don't see why people should be criticised for pointing out that the football we played was dire. I am as pleased as anyone with any win and the sooner we get to 40 points the better, but if we had lost that game the forum would have been full of criticism for a lack of movement, hoofing it to a striker who wants it to his feet, no composure, the manager losing his way etc etc.

There was plenty of criticism on Saturday when we only drew. Some even calling for Lambert to go. It's all very fine margins.

1. The football we played was effective, we won the match against a team that's flying high and in the Top 8.
2. Why are you focusing on us getting to 40 points? That's my point, you're being pessimistic.
3. 'If' is a very big word. In case you hadn't noticed, we didn't lose. Do you ever say 'if we'd won'?
4. They were wrong, Lambert is building something. It's not pretty all the time but results are improving, we've  young side that are learning and why we'd get rid of a young manager who is being relatively successful (given the starting point, budget and expectation), at this point eludes me.

1. It was effective against Hull, West Ham, Cardiff and Sunderland - still hard to watch.
2. No, but its the objective of every side from half way down and we are no different these days (in my opinion)
3. I'm pointing out that the playing style doesn't matter when we win but is seen as the reason why we lose when we get beaten or fail to win (Sunderland being the latest example).
4. Not arguing his merits at all.


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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #292 on: December 05, 2013, 05:54:16 PM »
My boiler had broken down when I got home at 1.45 this morning.
2 Wolves supporting engineers popped in today and fixed it.
Inevitably the chat turned to football. They were glowing in their praise for the way Villa is run now we've stopped spending millions on average players a la MON, and can see that that PL is doing something that looks like a plan that has started to work after a tricky first year. They were admittedly envious, and I know it's all relative, but couldn't help feeling a sense of pride in the way we are going about things even if there are some tough times to endure, and that these "neutral" fans were very complimentary about my club/team.
House now toasty warm again and the glow that came with last night's amazing win continues.
Looking forward to Sunday and a good day out at Fulham.
UTV!

Great post Frank. Think we have got to start appreciating we have a club with a plan and a vision. Wolves and the scum and several other teams were never in that position and look where they are now ......

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #293 on: December 05, 2013, 06:43:30 PM »

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #295 on: December 05, 2013, 06:48:45 PM »
He has a foot like a traction engine.

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #296 on: December 05, 2013, 06:49:31 PM »
Back of the net!

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #297 on: December 05, 2013, 06:51:02 PM »

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #298 on: December 05, 2013, 06:51:20 PM »
TWAT! That was liquid football.

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Re: Southampton v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #299 on: December 05, 2013, 06:59:02 PM »
Poor keeping ;)

 


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