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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #225 on: December 01, 2013, 11:01:40 AM »

Sign him up!
We had God on our side today J.

Yeah 'cos he's only standing about 5 yards off-side when the ball is played to him.  Mind you, the number of off-sides that fucking grey-haired lino missed below us was obscene.

He's not offside because he is behind the player that headed it to him.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #226 on: December 01, 2013, 11:02:40 AM »
the manager picked the team we wanted,they  did  not perform for one reason or another
we obtained a very fortunate point.
we can only play on the counter attack
eg.away record this calendar year lost 4  I think? in the league
so until we select players who can open teams up with the present staff or the transfer market we will tread water at home
players can improve with gametime.eg ramsey at arsenal and the late great Gerry hitchins who was  in my opinion was the
man.having watched villa since 1948

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #227 on: December 01, 2013, 11:07:16 AM »
I can understand that we may make slow progress up the table to a position most of us expect to be in'that is 5th-8th. Without capital we cannot expect to go any higher. Everton are our benchmark in every sense.Except they could afford Lukaku's loan fee(and wages) and we couldnt.Both Moyes and Martinez have been extremely good value for that club.

On reflection Gerard Houlier could have been the best manager we have had in years if his health had stood up(it didnt) or if he had given up his other job as Tourism CEO for the city of Liverpool (he didnt.)

Unlike Lambert ,Mcleish and MON(mainly) he appeared to have the right contacts and the ability to attract top players

I really had high hopes for Lambert. I thought we would see a couple of highly skilled technically adept German players in. Players I had never heard of, but in the end nothing transpired.

We have relied on Benteke far too much and now he has had a dramatic loss of form we have very little to excite us.

You know what I miss the days of Ron Atkinson and Graham Taylor and yes MON.

Nothing to look forward to now.

I know how you feel mate. I would add Little and Gregory to that list. 1996-2002, we were stacked full of potential and never out of the top eight. It just has felt like our stock as fallen really far and as though those we once competed with are too far ahead now to be ever caught.

I don't think Houllier was the right manager for us though. Maybe as a DoF but not a manager. I also thought Lambert's transfer business would be more progressive than it has been. I also didn't quite anticipate how bad we would be technically this season and also how direct.

It's just frustrating watching us, we are so ordinary for a club that had Champion's League aspirations just a few years ago and are now somewhat lucky to be still in the division. How we stayed up the McLeish year is still a mystery to me.

When did the rule come in that where you are now is where you will be forever?

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #228 on: December 01, 2013, 11:16:22 AM »
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!

I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)


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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #229 on: December 01, 2013, 11:18:00 AM »
Where also did the rule come from that our form will last forever?

If I remember last season I thought we would never tick and get going after that period. However we did and the confidence grew and grew.
Hopefully this will click again very soon and we can start putting some good performances together. One thing we have got this season to build from is we are a lot more organised at the back than this time last year.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #230 on: December 01, 2013, 11:19:24 AM »
Last season we were too eager, this season we're not eager enough.

It's almost like we've sacrificed our attacking prowess for a solid defence. It may be boring but it's got a better chance of us steering clear of the relegation fight.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #231 on: December 01, 2013, 11:22:22 AM »
On a brighter note I see we are now Pride of the Midlands.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #232 on: December 01, 2013, 11:23:06 AM »
He's not offside because he is behind the player that headed it to him.
Percy don't you think he offside when ball is first played?

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #233 on: December 01, 2013, 11:23:16 AM »
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!

I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)



Bang on. We shouldn't just be happy with just being in the PL. We're Aston Villa, not the Albion or Stoke etc. We are into our 4th season of struggle now, this hasn't happened in decades. We should demand better.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #234 on: December 01, 2013, 11:23:55 AM »
On a brighter note I see we are now Pride of the Midlands.

Dafabet are making a banner for us.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #235 on: December 01, 2013, 11:28:07 AM »
Yesterday I gave up after reading the first 3/4 pages of this thread. What do people want?  The same crew were hammering Lambert for lack of clean sheets and are now hammering him for lack of exciting football.
After defeat to Everton 8 points from our next 4 games would have been very good. We have 6 and no losses. Pretty good IMO.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #236 on: December 01, 2013, 11:30:01 AM »
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!

I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)



Bang on. We shouldn't just be happy with just being in the PL. We're Aston Villa, not the Albion or Stoke etc. We are into our 4th season of struggle now, this hasn't happened in decades. We should demand better.

It isn't happening now. It might not suit your argument but we are in the top half.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #237 on: December 01, 2013, 11:30:12 AM »
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!
Good post and we know what we are!

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #238 on: December 01, 2013, 11:38:39 AM »
I'm glad we've face opponents who've come through the Jason Lee school of finishing in the last two games. There's been a couple of absolute sitters missed.
We've got to up our bloody game next time out though. Southampton are a decent side. They're punching above their weight but I don't think they'll fall apart in time for our visit.

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Re: Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread
« Reply #239 on: December 01, 2013, 11:46:05 AM »
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!

I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)



Bang on. We shouldn't just be happy with just being in the PL. We're Aston Villa, not the Albion or Stoke etc. We are into our 4th season of struggle now, this hasn't happened in decades. We should demand better.

It isn't happening now. It might not suit your argument but we are in the top half.

True, but we're still painful to watch. You'd have to be some kind of masochist to enjoy the football this season, and like it or not we're only 6 points above the relegation zone.

 


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