Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[aj2k77]

We're in tenth spot and the ship is being steadied after a couple of years of serious turmoil. Lambert is doing a fine job in my view.

If you are happy to watch that sort of drivel then fair play to you - it was crap and yet you think he's doing a fine job ?
Words fail me !

Well, Eastie, I'm trying to look at the bigger picture and the job that I hope/think Lambert is trying to do.  If, in two/three years' time, we are playing awful football and we haven't progressed under Lambert, I would understand fan frustration.  I agree it was a stinker of a game from us but look at how Lambert is trying to build us up again and make us stable. We are taking - in my opinion - small, assured steps in the right direction.   Hitting tenth spot is not what a club like Villa should aspire to but, for the moment, I'll take it.  For the first time in three seasons I feel as though we are moving back on an upward curve.

If we are still playing terrible football in 3 years time he would have had 5 years of poor results and there is virtually no chance we would be in the top flight anymore. I'm personally not willing to let someone have 5 years of poor performances.

[villabren]

Is Lambert really the problem? What would be the point of changing the manager when there is little or no money to spend. If WBA are outbidding us on players then the problem is higher up than the dugout

[CJ]

Benteke seems to have lost all his confidence - not just today but look at the chances (and penalty) he missed against Everton. Maybe he was a one season wonder. Maybe other teams have found out that if you put 2 or 3 players on him, and Guzan (probably under instruction) continues to launch the ball at him, he's completely negated. Whatever the reason his game against Liverpool last season seems surreal in comparison to his form this season.

As for the game today - I'm fed up of getting served up with that turgid, unimaginative crap practically every home game. I understand the theory that a team can be greater than the sum of its parts, but we have too many players who just aren't up to it at this level. I'm not against Lambert - yet. But 7 home wins in his 26 so far simply isn't good enough. It's boring

[curiousorange]

I'm still expecting the real Lambert team to show itself, because the one at the moment doesn't justify patience, money and expectation. He's the master of putting eleven players onto a football pitch and not much else.

[olaftab]

4 games unbeaten including 3 clean sheets. Sunderland Manager described his team's performance as best away game they have played.  Yes disappointed we didn't win but not the end of the world.

[Ron Manager]

We're in tenth spot and the ship is being steadied after a couple of years of serious turmoil. Lambert is doing a fine job in my view.

If you are happy to watch that sort of drivel then fair play to you - it was crap and yet you think he's doing a fine job ?
Words fail me !

Well, Eastie, I'm trying to look at the bigger picture and the job that I hope/think Lambert is trying to do.  If, in two/three years' time, we are playing awful football and we haven't progressed under Lambert, I would understand fan frustration.  I agree it was a stinker of a game from us but look at how Lambert is trying to build us up again and make us stable. We are taking - in my opinion - small, assured steps in the right direction.   Hitting tenth spot is not what a club like Villa should aspire to but, for the moment, I'll take it.  For the first time in three seasons I feel as though we are moving back on an upward curve.

Unfortunately fans (at any club) are not prepared to watch their team play awful football for two or three years it just wouldnt happen.
Lambert however is in a position where he is safe. Randy Lerner, unless he sells up appears to be quite happy to see us become another mid table team who might have a cup run and he doesnt want any more changes that would cost him a big financial outlay.

[paulcomben]

Last on MOTD? They should broadcast the Football League Show before they screen those lowlights.

Just home from the match. Sunderland are dreadful and yet they had more chances. We cannot get through defences and visiting teams know it. Why is Albrighton the answer rather than Lowton and Bacuna in front of him?  Benteke's form and confidence is rock bottom.

[aj2k77]

Last on MOTD? They should broadcast the Football League Show before they screen those lowlights.

Just home from the match. Sunderland are dreadful and yet they had more chances. We cannot get through defences and visiting teams know it. Why is Albrighton the answer rather than Lowton and Bacuna in front of him?  Benteke's form and confidence is rock bottom.

I understand Benteke being frustrated with the lack of service and crap build up play but he should take a look at himself after todays performance. He barely got off the ground for the majority of headers and only once did I see him drop deeper to do something. If he carries on like this Lukaku is a shoe in for the world cup.

[olaftab]

I understand Benteke being frustrated with the lack of service and crap build up play but he should take a look at himself after todays performance. He barely got off the ground for the majority of headers and only once did I see him drop deeper to do something. If he carries on like this Lukaku is a shoe in for the world cup.

Agreed. He has been useless since his return from injury.

[paulcomben]

Last on MOTD? They should broadcast the Football League Show before they screen those lowlights.

Just home from the match. Sunderland are dreadful and yet they had more chances. We cannot get through defences and visiting teams know it. Why is Albrighton the answer rather than Lowton and Bacuna in front of him?  Benteke's form and confidence is rock bottom.

I understand Benteke being frustrated with the lack of service and crap build up play but he should take a look at himself after todays performance. He barely got off the ground for the majority of headers and only once did I see him drop deeper to do something. If he carries on like this Lukaku is a shoe in for the world cup.

Quite right. And he kept falling over when it was obvious that ref was giving us nothing at all. Ironically, Chris Brunt has just now hit the hard fast goal that Benteke should have, when he opted to try to loop it in after Westwood teed him up in the box.

[Dave Clark Five]

Wasn't today an "easy fixture?"

I expect us to beat Southampton away. That's how odd the season has been. Today was dire. Sack the manager talk is utterly ludicrous. We've gone from a team that opens up like your every day street tramp to one trying to figure out how to still remain creative while tight at the back. Days like this, shit though it feels are to be expected.

That is the trouble. We do expect days like this. However, it is being a bit too often. Maņana.

[Billy Walker]

We're in tenth spot and the ship is being steadied after a couple of years of serious turmoil. Lambert is doing a fine job in my view.

If you are happy to watch that sort of drivel then fair play to you - it was crap and yet you think he's doing a fine job ?
Words fail me !

Well, Eastie, I'm trying to look at the bigger picture and the job that I hope/think Lambert is trying to do.  If, in two/three years' time, we are playing awful football and we haven't progressed under Lambert, I would understand fan frustration.  I agree it was a stinker of a game from us but look at how Lambert is trying to build us up again and make us stable. We are taking - in my opinion - small, assured steps in the right direction.   Hitting tenth spot is not what a club like Villa should aspire to but, for the moment, I'll take it.  For the first time in three seasons I feel as though we are moving back on an upward curve.

If we are still playing terrible football in 3 years time he would have had 5 years of poor results and there is virtually no chance we would be in the top flight anymore. I'm personally not willing to let someone have 5 years of poor performances.

I'm not willing to let someone have five years of poor performances either.  I am, however, prepared to give a guy who has been in the job barely one and a  half seasons a chance.  Let's not forget the state of the club when he took over. It's not as though Lambert  took over a club with a top six squad and a hundred million quid burning a hole in its back pocket.  We're playing a long term game here and re-building in a structured, measured way as far as I can see.  I'll take the dire nil-nils at the moment as long as I feel and see overall progress.

[Legion]

[Dave Clark Five]

33,036 attendance today - gates are going to drop further with this shocking brand of football.

I think we will struggle to get 40000 for the Utd game.

[curiousorange]

Looks like he's been a Villa fan all his life.