Quote from: Brian Taylor on November 30, 2013, 07:10:12 PMQuote from: Dave Clark Five on November 30, 2013, 07:02:39 PMQuote from: Legion on November 30, 2013, 06:57:06 PMSign him up!We had God on our side today J.Yeah 'cos he's only standing about 5 yards off-side when the ball is played to him. Mind you, the number of off-sides that fucking grey-haired lino missed below us was obscene.
Quote from: Dave Clark Five on November 30, 2013, 07:02:39 PMQuote from: Legion on November 30, 2013, 06:57:06 PMSign him up!We had God on our side today J.
Quote from: Legion on November 30, 2013, 06:57:06 PMSign him up!
Quote from: Ron Manager on December 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AMI can understand that we may make slow progress up the table to a position most of us expect to be in'that is 5th-8th. Without capital we cannot expect to go any higher. Everton are our benchmark in every sense.Except they could afford Lukaku's loan fee(and wages) and we couldnt.Both Moyes and Martinez have been extremely good value for that club.On reflection Gerard Houlier could have been the best manager we have had in years if his health had stood up(it didnt) or if he had given up his other job as Tourism CEO for the city of Liverpool (he didnt.)Unlike Lambert ,Mcleish and MON(mainly) he appeared to have the right contacts and the ability to attract top playersI really had high hopes for Lambert. I thought we would see a couple of highly skilled technically adept German players in. Players I had never heard of, but in the end nothing transpired.We have relied on Benteke far too much and now he has had a dramatic loss of form we have very little to excite us.You know what I miss the days of Ron Atkinson and Graham Taylor and yes MON.Nothing to look forward to now.I know how you feel mate. I would add Little and Gregory to that list. 1996-2002, we were stacked full of potential and never out of the top eight. It just has felt like our stock as fallen really far and as though those we once competed with are too far ahead now to be ever caught. I don't think Houllier was the right manager for us though. Maybe as a DoF but not a manager. I also thought Lambert's transfer business would be more progressive than it has been. I also didn't quite anticipate how bad we would be technically this season and also how direct. It's just frustrating watching us, we are so ordinary for a club that had Champion's League aspirations just a few years ago and are now somewhat lucky to be still in the division. How we stayed up the McLeish year is still a mystery to me.
I can understand that we may make slow progress up the table to a position most of us expect to be in'that is 5th-8th. Without capital we cannot expect to go any higher. Everton are our benchmark in every sense.Except they could afford Lukaku's loan fee(and wages) and we couldnt.Both Moyes and Martinez have been extremely good value for that club.On reflection Gerard Houlier could have been the best manager we have had in years if his health had stood up(it didnt) or if he had given up his other job as Tourism CEO for the city of Liverpool (he didnt.)Unlike Lambert ,Mcleish and MON(mainly) he appeared to have the right contacts and the ability to attract top playersI really had high hopes for Lambert. I thought we would see a couple of highly skilled technically adept German players in. Players I had never heard of, but in the end nothing transpired.We have relied on Benteke far too much and now he has had a dramatic loss of form we have very little to excite us.You know what I miss the days of Ron Atkinson and Graham Taylor and yes MON.Nothing to look forward to now.
He's not offside because he is behind the player that headed it to him.
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)
On a brighter note I see we are now Pride of the Midlands.
Quote from: Witton Warrior on December 01, 2013, 11:16:22 AMThe fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)Bang on. We shouldn't just be happy with just being in the PL. We're Aston Villa, not the Albion or Stoke etc. We are into our 4th season of struggle now, this hasn't happened in decades. We should demand better.
The fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 01, 2013, 11:23:16 AMQuote from: Witton Warrior on December 01, 2013, 11:16:22 AMThe fact that we are all still arguing and debating means that we care and expect better no matter how deluded we may appear - the day we accept just being in the Premiership as our reason for being we become the Albion. Keep ranting Villans!I did attend hungover and it did have a numbing effect ;-)Bang on. We shouldn't just be happy with just being in the PL. We're Aston Villa, not the Albion or Stoke etc. We are into our 4th season of struggle now, this hasn't happened in decades. We should demand better. It isn't happening now. It might not suit your argument but we are in the top half.