WBA v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[ciggiesnbeer]

I expected the trio of subs to have an impact but not quite such a massive immediate influence on the game. It totally threw them and the few fans they had in the stadium.

Yes all 3 had an impact and Delph looked very assured as usual , the subs changed the game against Cardiff too with bacuna released to go forward when Lowton came on .

I just loved the way they came on. These were men on a mission. They fucking sprinted on at high pace. There was an "oh shit" look on the baggies players faces.

That and when lambert took his jacket off were two greta moments

[danlanza]

I expected the trio of subs to have an impact but not quite such a massive immediate influence on the game. It totally threw them and the few fans they had in the stadium.

Yes all 3 had an impact and Delph looked very assured as usual , the subs changed the game against Cardiff too with bacuna released to go forward when Lowton came on .

I just loved the way they came on. These were men on a mission. They fucking sprinted on at high pace. There was an "oh shit" look on the baggies players faces.

That and when lambert took his jacket off were two greta moments

Garbo ?

[Brend'Watkins]

I expected the trio of subs to have an impact but not quite such a massive immediate influence on the game. It totally threw them and the few fans they had in the stadium.

Yes all 3 had an impact and Delph looked very assured as usual , the subs changed the game against Cardiff too with bacuna released to go forward when Lowton came on .

I just loved the way they came on. These were men on a mission. They fucking sprinted on at high pace. There was an "oh shit" look on the baggies players faces.

That and when lambert took his jacket off were two greta moments

Yes, good spot.  It wasn't just the seemingly negative impact it had on Albion players it was the positive impact it had on our players on the pitch and those watching too.  Gabby puts fear into local opposition.  Weimann is relentless and Delph is becoming our General.  We need them fully fit.

[damon loves JT]

Last night was like having a near miss in the car. You pull over, and you're fine, but your heart is pounding and you're furious with everyone. Takes a while to calm down.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I expected the trio of subs to have an impact but not quite such a massive immediate influence on the game. It totally threw them and the few fans they had in the stadium.

Yes all 3 had an impact and Delph looked very assured as usual , the subs changed the game against Cardiff too with bacuna released to go forward when Lowton came on .

I just loved the way they came on. These were men on a mission. They fucking sprinted on at high pace. There was an "oh shit" look on the baggies players faces.

That and when lambert took his jacket off were two greta moments

Garbo ?

It was beautiful to me 

Yes, good spot.  It wasn't just the seemingly negative impact it had on Albion players it was the positive impact it had on our players on the pitch and those watching too.  Gabby puts fear into local opposition.  Weimann is relentless and Delph is becoming our General.  We need them fully fit.

Gabby was SO up for it. Anyone else notice the abuse he got from the local mongrels when he went off pitch to pick up the ball? Tossers.

[tomd2103]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.
Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Did you see the Cardiff game?  If you had then you would have seen the starting line up last night struggle badly against a very ordinary outfit and the performance only improve when changes were made. 

[dave.woodhall]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.
Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Did you see the Cardiff game?  If you had then you would have seen the starting line up last night struggle badly against a very ordinary outfit and the performance only improve when changes were made. 

That's because we're a very ordinary outfit ourselves, which is a vast improvement on the very poor outfit of January. This time next year I expect similar improvement.

[MoetVillan]

that ordinary outfit that equalised against the Premier league champions in fergie time no less.  As I have had great pleasure in telling all the manc twats at work this week  (sorry, cockerney twats).

That Westwood goal is bloody magic.  I could watch that every day

[LeeB]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.
Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Did you see the Cardiff game?  If you had then you would have seen the starting line up last night struggle badly against a very ordinary outfit and the performance only improve when changes were made. 

So with key players half fit, he's managed us to 4 points in those two games.

The useless bastard.

[Duncan Shaw]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.
Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Did you see the Cardiff game?  If you had then you would have seen the starting line up last night struggle badly against a very ordinary outfit and the performance only improve when changes were made. 

So with key players half fit, he's managed us to 4 points in those two games.

The useless bastard.

Hear 'kin hear!!

[walsall villain]

When the subs came on spirits were raised dramatically. Baggies fans around me where taking the piss but soon shut up as we got back into it. They were also singing a song about popov to the tune of Popeye the sailor man but soon dropped that once he started having a mare. That was the story of the second half, we shut the f****** up completely.

[Damo70]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.

Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Spot on. He is getting more credit on the Albion forums than on here.

[Damo70]

I expected the trio of subs to have an impact but not quite such a massive immediate influence on the game. It totally threw them and the few fans they had in the stadium.

Yes all 3 had an impact and Delph looked very assured as usual , the subs changed the game against Cardiff too with bacuna released to go forward when Lowton came on .

I just loved the way they came on. These were men on a mission. They fucking sprinted on at high pace. There was an "oh shit" look on the baggies players faces.

That and when lambert took his jacket off were two greta moments

My son and I got quite pumped up when Lambert took off his jacket. Sometimes it's the silly little things isn't it?

[eastie]

Can I just add that some of the criticism of the manager, his tactics and the line up are ridiculous, and indeed arrogant.
Most fools would follow conventional wisdom, ie. if he's fit enough for the bench, he's fit enough to start etc. but that is plainly one of those football truisms that's just bollocks.

Had they all started, then there's a good chance they would have faded, and in the back of their mind they'd be thinking of saving themselves a bit to go 90 minutes.

What we instead saw was them come on knowing they could go flat out for 30 mins against tiring legs.

It's a judgement call, but to pillory for him when he probably got it spot on is just crap

And also, he moved Delph out to left wing back, and that completely locked that side up when we were getting murdered down there, so kudos again.

Did you see the Cardiff game?  If you had then you would have seen the starting line up last night struggle badly against a very ordinary outfit and the performance only improve when changes were made. 

That's because we're a very ordinary outfit ourselves, which is a vast improvement on the very poor outfit of January. This time next year I expect similar improvement.

I see 9th to 12th being between us, Albion, newcastle and swansea any of those places would represent solid improvement this season - then again next season we can look to perhaps chasing a top 8 position .

I think without huge investment there is only so far you can take a club as moyes found out at everton - maybe a long time before we can set our sights on the top 6 again but  top 8 is not too far away .

[Liam_Baggies]

The biggest surrender since Villa surrendered the three points in January.

Bitterly disappointed to have thrown the game away but really not surprised. It was evident that once Villa got their first that the equaliser was going to come at some point - I'm just glad that our bottlers didn't give it away completely and give them a third.

I thought we was very good in the first half although I think Villa being totally abject may somewhat have enhanced our performance in my view. I certainly feel we could play better. I've been a critic of Shane Long over the past couple of months but he was very good in the first half, he caused them endless amounts of problems and took both goals extremely well. We should really have put the game behind you in the first half.  Stephane Sessegnon missed a sitter and then did exactly the same in the second half.

The second half was a total calamity. Clarke didn't react to Villa making the three subs and we tended to play Villa's game of kick and rush rather than our own. They got in our faces, made life difficult and therefore our ball retention became very poor.

Mulumbu and Long were the stand out performers for me. Extremely disappointed in Goran Popov who was at fault for both goals. The first he stood in no mans land forcing Brunt into a one on one situation with Bacuna and the second he headed the ball into the wrong area - a good striker from Westwood, however.

Fair play to Villa for turning round - the changes were obvious and I'm surprised all three weren't made at half time.

Disappointed but not surprised, either.