WBA v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[olaftab]

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

DC5 you paid your money and are entitled to your opinion. You can see it the way you did or recognise it as game changer ploy. When Fergie did this sort of thing he was of course genius  however Lambert is stroppy and stubborn?

[supertom]

Shane Long is Weimann like. Works his bollocks off, runs all game, harasses defenders and scores a few, with the odd ones being top class.

Andy unfortunately continued his trait this season of just fluffing his lines in front of goal and rushing his chances. He needs a bit of composure. The chance he got from a flick on was half decent but he snatched at it. That's almost happened with him every game that he'll have one chance like that.

He's got it in him to have smashed that into the top corner. Hopefully he'll get a goal against Sunderland and kick on.

[Dave Clark Five]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

The players were not fit enough to start, they've hardly trained. He's got to manage his squad over the entire season not just tonight. If he had risked them and they limped off people would be slagging him off for risking them.

It is debatable who was fit or not but that defence is like a colander and the midfield was weak also. We need to see some steel in there and can't keep blaming it on injuries.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Don't you think if it was not for a huge amount of injuries our squad has he might have picked a stronger first eleven?

You could probably have stopped at "Don't you think?"  And the answer would be a resounding "No.  I made my mind up a long time ago".   

[aj2k77]

Great heart to come back from a losing position again, The boys don't give up.
Baker is clumsy and a ball watcher, like a donkey centre back from the 80's.
Tonev hang your boots up son.
Lots of negatives from that performance but the cracks have been papered over for now.
I still don't rate Lambert.
Up the Villa.

[Hoppo]

We've just come back from the dead against a 'rival' and people are on here constantly whingeing. I don't think some will ever be happy.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I'm not sure what to think on reflection. I guess a draw from 2-0 down against anybody has to be considered a good end result

But what about the shit beforehand ?

It's getting a bit tedious now to be fair. The Boggies passed us off the park for long portions of that match and to be frank, it's not on.

As for 'tactical genius' with the substitutions. Was there ANYONE in the away end not calling for those exact changes at half time

Against Cardiff, even my 11 year old nephew called the Lowton/Bacuna swap around before Lambert made it. It's not tactical genius, it's glaringly fucking obvious.

Thus, i'm still FAR from convinced even though a bit relieved

[dave.woodhall]

Those cracks must be ever so well-protected, the amount of times they get papered over.

[ozzjim]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

O'Neill would never have hauled 3 players off, especially one of his biggest signings, on 57 minutes.

As has been said a number of times, why on earth would he start with 5 players who have been injured, 3 of whom did not train until friday? It would have been a suicidal gamble.

IT is becoming more and more fashionable to bash Lambert at the moment, despite him having been here less than 18 months and had to completely build a squad on genuine peanuts, while losing an extraordinary amount of players to injury and being dealt to be fair, the fixture list from hell at the start of this season. To sit on 15 points tonight, is a damned good effort and about what most of us would have expected at this stage.

Just reading the comments, you would think we were given a full on twatting tonight, not got a 2-2 draw away at a side full of confidence, well established in their squad that have finished above us the last 2 seasons.

[Californian Villain]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

The players were not fit enough to start, they've hardly trained. He's got to manage his squad over the entire season not just tonight. If he had risked them and they limped off people would be slagging him off for risking them.

Is the correct answer. If any of the three of them had been fit to start, they would have done since all three are clearly part of the manager's "strongest 11." Describing it as a "monumental fuck up" is way over the top. And inaccurate.

[Californian Villain]

O'Neill would never have hauled 3 players off, especially one of his biggest signings, on 57 minutes.

As has been said a number of times, why on earth would he start with 5 players who have been injured, 3 of whom did not train until friday? It would have been a suicidal gamble.

IT is becoming more and more fashionable to bash Lambert at the moment, despite him having been here less than 18 months and had to completely build a squad on genuine peanuts, while losing an extraordinary amount of players to injury and being dealt to be fair, the fixture list from hell at the start of this season. To sit on 15 points tonight, is a damned good effort and about what most of us would have expected at this stage.

Just reading the comments, you would think we were given a full on twatting tonight, not got a 2-2 draw away at a side full of confidence, well established in their squad that have finished above us the last 2 seasons.

This. Some posters seen to think we should be Barcelona by now.

[berneboy]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

O'Neill would never have hauled 3 players off, especially one of his biggest signings, on 57 minutes.

As has been said a number of times, why on earth would he start with 5 players who have been injured, 3 of whom did not train until friday? It would have been a suicidal gamble.

IT is becoming more and more fashionable to bash Lambert at the moment, despite him having been here less than 18 months and had to completely build a squad on genuine peanuts, while losing an extraordinary amount of players to injury and being dealt to be fair, the fixture list from hell at the start of this season. To sit on 15 points tonight, is a damned good effort and about what most of us would have expected at this stage.

Just reading the comments, you would think we were given a full on twatting tonight, not got a 2-2 draw away at a side full of confidence, well established in their squad that have finished above us the last 2 seasons.

I can't bear reasoned, considered opinions like this, Ozzjim. Cut it out.

[Tom_Mc9?]

If you can't enjoy coming back from two down in a local derby away from home and want to spend the evening moaning about the manage, I feel sorry for you.

[Dave Clark Five]

I'm not buying this Lambert is ok cos of the 3 subs.
It was a monumental fuck up on his part leaving those guys out + Lowton.
The guy is very very naive.

Correct. Then he did the stroppy three player sub which always means 'you lot are crap'. It was not tactical at all. The bloke had fucked up again and is another O'Neill with his stubborness.

The players were not fit enough to start, they've hardly trained. He's got to manage his squad over the entire season not just tonight. If he had risked them and they limped off people would be slagging him off for risking them.

Is the correct answer. If any of the three of them had been fit to start, they would have done since all three are clearly part of the manager's "strongest 11." Describing it as a "monumental fuck up" is way over the top. And inaccurate.

He brought them on too late. They were fit enough to be on the bench and Gabby, particularly, looked very fit. All is not well. We can all pretend it is but it isn't.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

O'Neill would never have hauled 3 players off, especially one of his biggest signings, on 57 minutes.

As has been said a number of times, why on earth would he start with 5 players who have been injured, 3 of whom did not train until friday? It would have been a suicidal gamble.

IT is becoming more and more fashionable to bash Lambert at the moment, despite him having been here less than 18 months and had to completely build a squad on genuine peanuts, while losing an extraordinary amount of players to injury and being dealt to be fair, the fixture list from hell at the start of this season. To sit on 15 points tonight, is a damned good effort and about what most of us would have expected at this stage.

Just reading the comments, you would think we were given a full on twatting tonight, not got a 2-2 draw away at a side full of confidence, well established in their squad that have finished above us the last 2 seasons.

This. Some posters seen to think we should be Barcelona by now.

I'd settle for Barcelona B right now.