Charles N'zogbia update

[rob_bridge]

I think we'll end-up doing a Makoun with Charlie boy and loan him out to some bottom-half French club for next season, paying 70% of his wages. We'll settle his contract with him next year as he enters the last 12 months. Another frickin' waste.

Hindsight is easy and all that but tying up about £100k a week over a combined 10 years for two players in summer 2011 - N'Zog and Given, looks nearly as wreckless as anything seen in the MON years.

Not to mention the £2million for Jermaine Jenas. These were all done under the auspices of our CEO. Hopelessly out of his depth when it comes to footballing decisions.

[rob_bridge]

I think we'll end-up doing a Makoun with Charlie boy and loan him out to some bottom-half French club for next season, paying 70% of his wages. We'll settle his contract with him next year as he enters the last 12 months. Another frickin' waste.

Hindsight is easy and all that but tying up about £100k a week over a combined 10 years for two players in summer 2011 - N'Zog and Given, looks nearly as wreckless as anything seen in the MON years.

Yep.  Add Hutton on £40k a week wage and loaning Jenas probably on something similar and it was a terrible summer in the transfer market!!

And the £2m paid to The Neanderthals to prise their manager from them. And a similar amount 11 months later to dump him.

If I wasn't a Villa fan I would have been pissing myself laughing at the ineptitude.

[itbrvilla]

I think we'll end-up doing a Makoun with Charlie boy and loan him out to some bottom-half French club for next season, paying 70% of his wages. We'll settle his contract with him next year as he enters the last 12 months. Another frickin' waste.

Hindsight is easy and all that but tying up about £100k a week over a combined 10 years for two players in summer 2011 - N'Zog and Given, looks nearly as wreckless as anything seen in the MON years.

Yep.  Add Hutton on £40k a week wage and loaning Jenas probably on something similar and it was a terrible summer in the transfer market!!

And the £2m paid to The Neanderthals to prise their manager from them. And a similar amount 11 months later to dump him.

If I wasn't a Villa fan I would have been pissing myself laughing at the ineptitude.

I often find myself laughing in disbelief recently. I don't even get upset or angry about the Villa anymore. They seem to have sucked all the passion I once had out of me.

[Damo70]

I think we'll end-up doing a Makoun with Charlie boy and loan him out to some bottom-half French club for next season, paying 70% of his wages. We'll settle his contract with him next year as he enters the last 12 months. Another frickin' waste.

Hindsight is easy and all that but tying up about £100k a week over a combined 10 years for two players in summer 2011 - N'Zog and Given, looks nearly as wreckless as anything seen in the MON years.

Yep.  Add Hutton on £40k a week wage and loaning Jenas probably on something similar and it was a terrible summer in the transfer market!!

And the £2m paid to The Neanderthals to prise their manager from them. And a similar amount 11 months later to dump him.

If I wasn't a Villa fan I would have been pissing myself laughing at the ineptitude.

He might have been unlucky with Jenas but when TSM says what a good job he did at Villa under difficult circumstances people should never forget the wages and fees for Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia.

[sirlordbaltimore]

or the fact he had to replace Young & Downing (sold for 38m) with a 9m N'Zogbia, and do with an injured Bent for a lengthy period

looking back, how he kept us up is quite a miracle

[Dave]

He might have been unlucky with Jenas but when TSM says what a good job he did at Villa under difficult circumstances people should never forget the wages and fees for Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia.

I think N'Zogbia is forgiveable. We needed to replace two wingers and given the way he was playing for Wigan I don't think we overpaid based on what we thought we were getting.

With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that we shouldn't have done it, but at least at the time it made sense.

Unlike the Given or Hutton deals which were stupid at the time and even more stupid looking back.

[danno]

I might be alone in this but I hope N'zogbia gets another chance.
I think he'd do OK if we threw him upfront. (in one of the wide positions).
I also doubt that after being injured for so long, we could seriously ask for a fee.

[PeterWithesShin]

He might have been unlucky with Jenas but when TSM says what a good job he did at Villa under difficult circumstances people should never forget the wages and fees for Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia.

I think N'Zogbia is forgiveable. We needed to replace two wingers and given the way he was playing for Wigan I don't think we overpaid based on what we thought we were getting.

With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that we shouldn't have done it, but at least at the time it made sense.

Unlike the Given or Hutton deals which were stupid at the time and even more stupid looking back.

The majority of us wanted Zog. Even Hutton makes sort of sense sense, we had just lost Lichaj to injury and there was only a day or two until the window closed so we needed another fullback. TSM knew him etc so logical he went with him. And Hutton is on a lot lower wages than keeps getting reported as fact.

[Concrete John]

He might have been unlucky with Jenas but when TSM says what a good job he did at Villa under difficult circumstances people should never forget the wages and fees for Hutton, Given and N'Zogbia.

I think N'Zogbia is forgiveable. We needed to replace two wingers and given the way he was playing for Wigan I don't think we overpaid based on what we thought we were getting.

With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to say that we shouldn't have done it, but at least at the time it made sense.

Unlike the Given or Hutton deals which were stupid at the time and even more stupid looking back.

I can't remember much moaning about Hutton at the time.  International FB who Spurs had relatively recently paid £9m for.  I viewed it as an OK deal, but we all know how bad he turned out to be.

In fairness there were quite a few questioning the Given deal due to his age and it's length.

[Dave]

Even Hutton makes sort of sense sense, we had just lost Lichaj to injury and there was only a day or two until the window closed so we needed another fullback. TSM knew him etc so logical he went with him. And Hutton is on a lot lower wages than keeps getting reported as fact.

Even at the time I'd have persevered with whichever of Herd, Beye and Lichaj seemed the least worst option rather than spending £4m on Hutton.

It's not that we had load of great right-backs, it's just that it wasn't so much of a priority that it was worth throwing that amount of money at it.

[ADVILLAFAN]

I might be alone in this but I hope N'zogbia gets another chance.
I think he'd do OK if we threw him upfront. (in one of the wide positions).
I also doubt that after being injured for so long, we could seriously ask for a fee.

Same for me Danno, he's had some good performances for us too. Does get moaned at for not working back enough though.

[SoccerHQ]

Even Hutton makes sort of sense sense, we had just lost Lichaj to injury and there was only a day or two until the window closed so we needed another fullback. TSM knew him etc so logical he went with him. And Hutton is on a lot lower wages than keeps getting reported as fact.

Even at the time I'd have persevered with whichever of Herd, Beye and Lichaj seemed the least worst option rather than spending £4m on Hutton.

It's not that we had load of great right-backs, it's just that it wasn't so much of a priority that it was worth throwing that amount of money at it.

Nah we'd just sold Luke Young to QPR so needed an experience head in there, had Beye been released by then?

[Ads]

I think he can offer us something, especially with how poor Weimann has been.

[Dave]

Nope, we released him in the February of McLeish's tenure.

I think I'd just about take Hutton over Beye, but I'd definitely take Beye + £4m investment elsewhere over Hutton.

[silhillvilla]

I'd like to see CZog get another chance .
He can be a class act , it's getting it out of him though.