Hutton has behaved impeccably, he's never dissed the club the manager or the fans, for this he gets some good creditHowever if you were to draw a list of worst footballers ever to play for Villa he would be on it.I doubt this will change in the forthcoming season
He's another one who has got better the less he has played. Which says more about Lowton. Theres a good player there somewhere, just needs good coaching, something we lack and hasn't been addressed. Get out your German black book Lambert.
Quote from: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2014, 05:51:58 PMHe's another one who has got better the less he has played. Which says more about Lowton. Theres a good player there somewhere, just needs good coaching, something we lack and hasn't been addressed. Get out your German black book Lambert.Hutton had a very poor season under McLeish, but Lowton and Bacuna have been as bad if not worse at times in that position in the preceding years.
Lowton started off well in his first season. Last season was awful. Bacuna isn't a full back at all,no positional sense. Still don't think Hutton is the answer.
Quote from: tomd2103 on July 19, 2014, 07:58:09 PMQuote from: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2014, 05:51:58 PMHe's another one who has got better the less he has played. Which says more about Lowton. Theres a good player there somewhere, just needs good coaching, something we lack and hasn't been addressed. Get out your German black book Lambert.Hutton had a very poor season under McLeish, but Lowton and Bacuna have been as bad if not worse at times in that position in the preceding years. There's potential in those two though with better coaching.Hutton at 29 ain't getting any better.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on July 19, 2014, 08:26:35 PMQuote from: tomd2103 on July 19, 2014, 07:58:09 PMQuote from: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2014, 05:51:58 PMHe's another one who has got better the less he has played. Which says more about Lowton. Theres a good player there somewhere, just needs good coaching, something we lack and hasn't been addressed. Get out your German black book Lambert.Hutton had a very poor season under McLeish, but Lowton and Bacuna have been as bad if not worse at times in that position in the preceding years. There's potential in those two though with better coaching.Hutton at 29 ain't getting any better.Sorry i worded that poorly, i was talking about Lowton. Columbus, Vasco De Gama and Francis Drake couldn't find a good player in Hutton.
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on July 17, 2014, 01:22:26 PMQuote from: paul_e on July 17, 2014, 12:46:28 PMAll clubs have players who aren't involved and are clearly up for sale, the only difference is that 1 or 2 of the players that we put in that group gave the press a nice 'bomb squad' soundbite and it's stuck.A lot of people on here are guilty of reading everything that's reported about Villa, reading bits and pieces about other clubs and then wondering why they hear so much more bad press about Villa.I agree about the point that we, quite naturally, tend to read way more about Villa than any other team and dissect what we read to the nth degree.1 .I'd also agree that the bomb squad tag was a nice sound bite, originating from Hutton in an interview at the start of last season if I remember rightly.2 .But for other clubs, perception seems to be that yes, they all have players that they want to move on for.whatever reason, but they're not totally ostracized in the way we've handled our unwanted players.That it's public knowledge that they're training away from the first team, even before squad.numbers were announced puts us in a weak bargaining position.Not to mention they pure waste of wages.As poor as he is, I can't believe that there weren't times last season where we were playing a flat back 4 without Lowton, where Bacuna in front if Hutton wouldn't have been better than Bacuna getting ripped to shreds behind KEA.As someone who agrees that we shouldn't be basing our play around Bent, again if we're going to go all gung-ho 4 up front for the last 10 minutes when trying to salvage something from a game, or whatever it is Lambert tries to do in those situations who's more likely to.convert a half chance in the box, Bent or one of Holt, Gabby or Wieman?Ironically Ireland was just a waste of fresh air and beyond salvaging anything from, yet he was the one we managed where we at least duck some of his wages.1. but that's not what happened, the club didn't make anything public, bannan and hutton (I think) were interviewed and announced that they and a few others (I believe they were named) were training on their own and they taken to calling themselves the bomb squad. Before that interview I cant recall anything to suggest that was the case, just the usual 'villa are looking for offers for...' which all clubs leak every summer.2. I'd be very surprised if there aren't players up and down the country with a whole host of clubs who are either training alone or are shunned off to one side as much as possible. The issue is that we let that soundbite go to press with nothing to counter it so it became the story of our summer and the press just ran with it.
Quote from: paul_e on July 17, 2014, 12:46:28 PMAll clubs have players who aren't involved and are clearly up for sale, the only difference is that 1 or 2 of the players that we put in that group gave the press a nice 'bomb squad' soundbite and it's stuck.A lot of people on here are guilty of reading everything that's reported about Villa, reading bits and pieces about other clubs and then wondering why they hear so much more bad press about Villa.I agree about the point that we, quite naturally, tend to read way more about Villa than any other team and dissect what we read to the nth degree.1 .I'd also agree that the bomb squad tag was a nice sound bite, originating from Hutton in an interview at the start of last season if I remember rightly.2 .But for other clubs, perception seems to be that yes, they all have players that they want to move on for.whatever reason, but they're not totally ostracized in the way we've handled our unwanted players.That it's public knowledge that they're training away from the first team, even before squad.numbers were announced puts us in a weak bargaining position.Not to mention they pure waste of wages.As poor as he is, I can't believe that there weren't times last season where we were playing a flat back 4 without Lowton, where Bacuna in front if Hutton wouldn't have been better than Bacuna getting ripped to shreds behind KEA.As someone who agrees that we shouldn't be basing our play around Bent, again if we're going to go all gung-ho 4 up front for the last 10 minutes when trying to salvage something from a game, or whatever it is Lambert tries to do in those situations who's more likely to.convert a half chance in the box, Bent or one of Holt, Gabby or Wieman?Ironically Ireland was just a waste of fresh air and beyond salvaging anything from, yet he was the one we managed where we at least duck some of his wages.
All clubs have players who aren't involved and are clearly up for sale, the only difference is that 1 or 2 of the players that we put in that group gave the press a nice 'bomb squad' soundbite and it's stuck.A lot of people on here are guilty of reading everything that's reported about Villa, reading bits and pieces about other clubs and then wondering why they hear so much more bad press about Villa.
The thing I worry about with Lowton is that he's just not very good.In the last third of his first season, we got a bit carried away, what with that goal at Stoke and what not, but the rest of that season, people were pretty unconvinced by him.
Lowton gave the best full back performance I've ever seen from a villa player, against Sunderland. I'm not ready to give up on him yet
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