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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #465 on: September 08, 2014, 10:38:08 PM »
The guy took Delph first, then the ball. As such, it is a penalty.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #466 on: September 08, 2014, 10:45:18 PM »
He played well depite having the over-hyped . darling of the London Press, Wilshire ,  playing his usual ´understated ´( piss-poor )  Game , alongside him .
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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #467 on: September 08, 2014, 10:45:43 PM »
Yep. Delph's first touch was not great, but he was in the process of doing his trick of dragging the ball back and then going round the lunging defender. The defender took him out.

By the way, although Delph is quite accompished at this trick, it risks serious injury as Eduardo found out against Blose.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #468 on: September 08, 2014, 10:45:57 PM »
I do really hope that those three in the midfield, along with the Ox and Milner, are given time to develop and learn together as a trio. The media harp on about the midfield three, learning from other nations etc - you can't expect them to pass like Xavi-Iniesta-Sergio when they do not play together consistently in competitive matches. Delph and Henderson are the energy which will hopefully allow Wilshire to dictate play more, as he gets better at the base of the midfield. Sterling at the point of the diamond gives the X factor which has been lacking from the England MF for a while now, perhaps since a fit, young Joe Cole(?!) played, he's only 19 and under Rodgers has a great manager to learn to improve his decision making under - look at how he was 18 months ago to now. Henderson can't do that running all on his own and Fab allows him to share the role - apart from the usual indiscipline he shows (which international football may teach him to grow out of, helping us too) he had a solid game and fit within the system really well.

It was the first time in ages I actually enjoyed watching England play, and I'm glad a Villa player had a decent part in causing that. As long as we can get him to extend playing matches like tonight will only help the Villa too, and crucially the players around him (Grealish, Westwood etc).

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #469 on: September 08, 2014, 11:09:04 PM »
I thought Delph was decent once he settled. I liked the energy he brought to midfield.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #470 on: September 08, 2014, 11:23:10 PM »
Delph was excellent once he settled, a little bit too eager to start with.

But how annoying is that condescending twat 'glorious night in Barcelona' Tyldesley?  Comments reference Delph achieving International status whilst playing for an also ran club like Villa & a player like Milner achieving 50 caps.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #471 on: September 08, 2014, 11:41:36 PM »
Delph was excellent once he settled, a little bit too eager to start with.

But how annoying is that condescending twat 'glorious night in Barcelona' Tyldesley?  Comments reference Delph achieving International status whilst playing for an also ran club like Villa & a player like Milner achieving 50 caps.

I watched the match with sound on mute(the only way to deal with the facile drivel of Tyldesley and rent a gob Townsend) and listened to the 5 Live commentary - Danny Mills comments on Fabian were positive in that Fabian's energy was an inspiration to those around him. For Fabian's first full cap I thought he was very good.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #472 on: September 09, 2014, 12:13:06 AM »
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Hodgson changed to a diamond formation to allow Welbeck to play through the middle, Raheem Sterling to take the No 10 position and Fabian Delph to make his first England start, playing with Jack Wilshere and Jordan Henderson in midfield.
 “These are our talented players,” said Hodgson. “This is the way forward. We’ve got to back them. I’m pleased we adopted a bold approach, asked a lot of these players, but only because if it’s going to work in the future, if this group of players is to become any good, we’ve got to do it from the start. We had to go from the start as we mean to continue, and luckily we got the start which will help us.”
 Delph was fortunate not to be sent off inside the first 10 minutes, when he was booked and let off another challenge, but recovered to produce a good performance.
 “It’s like everything else – you can take away players’ qualities by speaking to them too much,” said Hodgson. “If you emphasise discipline too much and to be careful in tackles, you can take away elements of their game.
 “It’s always the same with people like Fabian Delph, Wayne Rooney and John Stones – their first thoughts are to get up to the ball. We lacked that at the World Cup at times, putting people under pressure and making life difficult for opponents, and I was pleased with that tonight.
 “We have to continue working on that. Fabian will come away with some nice remarks, but it’s one game. One cap. I want him to have lots of caps and games for Aston Villa before France comes around. I want him to be a much more competent player than he is now. I’m not saying he’s not competent now, but he can be even better in two years’ time.

"We thought about the diamond at the start of the week, but decided against Norway to start in another way. We thought this could be a good system for our players. The six players I have in front of the back four have tremendous potential: youth, energy, talent.
 “They can play in different positions, wide and central. The inclusion of Delph could be regarded as a bolder move given he’s inexperienced, but that’s how he plays for his club team. Being left-footed, it eases things for him as well. I was very pleased with his performance. To come here and do as well as he did deserves a lot of credit.”


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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #473 on: September 09, 2014, 06:48:14 AM »
Reading a few of the ratings given in the rags  and seeing that Wilshere has been given the same mark as Delph in a lot of the papers shows me why I don't bother usually reading them.

Wilshere, who I have always been a fan of, thinking he will eventually blossom, was remarkably bad last night and Delph was certainly not.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #474 on: September 09, 2014, 07:02:54 AM »
Wilshere is never a holding midfielder. His instinct is always to drive forward and play a one two. And his long range passing is poor. Carrick is the obvious choice there but I'm not sure who gets the gig long term.

A good performance overall but we still look very shaky defensively

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #475 on: September 09, 2014, 07:24:09 AM »
Wilshere is never a holding midfielder. His instinct is always to drive forward and play a one two. And his long range passing is poor. Carrick is the obvious choice there but I'm not sure who gets the gig long term.

A good performance overall but we still look very shaky defensively

I think that Huddleston and dare I say it Shelvey are more suited to that deep playing midfielder role.

As an aside, this must bring home to Milner the sacrifice he has made.  He should be first choice centre midfielder for England but as he never plays there for his club so this cannot happen...  He loss, his agents gain.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 09:00:36 AM by Dante Lavelli »

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #476 on: September 09, 2014, 07:25:03 AM »
The only ratings I saw last night gave Wilshere an 8 and Delph a 5.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #477 on: September 09, 2014, 07:53:04 AM »
The only two that I have read have been pretty positive

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Fabian Delph recovered his cool to contribute valuably

The Aston Villa man was a horse for a course: he has operated in a 4-3-3 domestically under Paul Lambert, covers an exceptional amount of ground and looks after the ball carefully. A promising opening, in which he made a strong run down the left and popped a couple of decent balls to his front men, threatened to unravel when consecutive lunges on Valon Behrami and Stephan Lichtsteiner earned him a yellow card and a subsequent slide – after he had ill-advisedly let the ball run – caused concern. But Delph knuckled down on his first start and looked more positive after the break, causing problems with bursts down the left and perhaps being unlucky not to win a penalty. He also played a part in subduing Xherdan Shaqiri and can be happy with his night’s work.

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Fabian Delph
A positive display despite two rash challenges in the first half, earning your correspondent a welcome £60 with the first booking of the night at 12/1. Thank you, Fabian. The best word to describe Delph's performance is 'energetic', but he also showed composure on the ball to record the highest pass completion rate of all starting players with an impressive 97%. His forward bursts helped to put Switzerland under pressure while he should arguably have had a penalty when he was brought down by Johan Djourou. Will need to keep his cool from the start in future.

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #478 on: September 09, 2014, 08:13:53 AM »
These plaudits are all well and good but when is he going to be signed onto a new Villa contract?!

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Re: Delph for England
« Reply #479 on: September 09, 2014, 08:19:22 AM »
As I said I thought he was excellent last night and gave a great account of himself. However it should also mean that Villa's most pressing issue is to sign him to a new deal.

 


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