Quote from: SashasGrandad on November 08, 2013, 09:16:44 AMPersonally - I think he is not international quality - he looks good in our midfield because he is playing with others who are struggling.He is good at what he does - but does not score or create - as others on this thread have already mentioned.Delph is more akin to Lee Hendrie, Downing etc. - rather than Mortimer, Cowans, Milner, Barry, who were all worthy of England placesMilner doesn't belong in that list and Delph has just as good an engine as him but is more gifted with the ball at his feet.
Personally - I think he is not international quality - he looks good in our midfield because he is playing with others who are struggling.He is good at what he does - but does not score or create - as others on this thread have already mentioned.Delph is more akin to Lee Hendrie, Downing etc. - rather than Mortimer, Cowans, Milner, Barry, who were all worthy of England places
Quote from: eamonn on November 08, 2013, 11:27:28 AMQuote from: SashasGrandad on November 08, 2013, 09:16:44 AMPersonally - I think he is not international quality - he looks good in our midfield because he is playing with others who are struggling.He is good at what he does - but does not score or create - as others on this thread have already mentioned.Delph is more akin to Lee Hendrie, Downing etc. - rather than Mortimer, Cowans, Milner, Barry, who were all worthy of England placesMilner doesn't belong in that list and Delph has just as good an engine as him but is more gifted with the ball at his feet. No way is Delph more gifted with the ball at his feet than Milner, completely disagree and their careers to date back this up.
Quote from: bobdylan on November 08, 2013, 12:50:06 PMQuote from: eamonn on November 08, 2013, 11:27:28 AMQuote from: SashasGrandad on November 08, 2013, 09:16:44 AMPersonally - I think he is not international quality - he looks good in our midfield because he is playing with others who are struggling.He is good at what he does - but does not score or create - as others on this thread have already mentioned.Delph is more akin to Lee Hendrie, Downing etc. - rather than Mortimer, Cowans, Milner, Barry, who were all worthy of England placesMilner doesn't belong in that list and Delph has just as good an engine as him but is more gifted with the ball at his feet. No way is Delph more gifted with the ball at his feet than Milner, completely disagree and their careers to date back this up.This. No way would Delph be able to replicate Milner's 09/10 season. Delph stands out in an abject midfield. Milner stood out in a good midfield.
Quote from: Isa on November 08, 2013, 04:11:50 PMQuote from: bobdylan on November 08, 2013, 12:50:06 PMQuote from: eamonn on November 08, 2013, 11:27:28 AMQuote from: SashasGrandad on November 08, 2013, 09:16:44 AMPersonally - I think he is not international quality - he looks good in our midfield because he is playing with others who are struggling.He is good at what he does - but does not score or create - as others on this thread have already mentioned.Delph is more akin to Lee Hendrie, Downing etc. - rather than Mortimer, Cowans, Milner, Barry, who were all worthy of England placesMilner doesn't belong in that list and Delph has just as good an engine as him but is more gifted with the ball at his feet. No way is Delph more gifted with the ball at his feet than Milner, completely disagree and their careers to date back this up.This. No way would Delph be able to replicate Milner's 09/10 season. Delph stands out in an abject midfield. Milner stood out in a good midfield. Give him a chance he's been fully fit for about 6 months and look how much he's come on.
Milner created goals, and also scored goalsWhat exactly does Delph do better than him ?Some people really have taken Delph's supposed ability of the charts with nothing to back it up
It's a fair point. There is more to come from Delph and the fact that Milner was in a good midfield helped him stand out.
well hes having a good go this season to be fair, MOTM in most if not all our games so farsecond half down at Chelsea he was the best midfielder on the pitch, he ran them ragged, they were praying for the full time whistle, he and KEA were destrying them in the middle, that's the best ive seen him in fairness, but Millner would not be able to replicate that display either, unless he was surrounded by worldbeaters
Quote from: not3bad on November 08, 2013, 04:48:33 PM It's a fair point. There is more to come from Delph and the fact that Milner was in a good midfield helped him stand out.That doesn't make sense. Standing out in a good midfield is obviously more difficult then standing out in a poor midfield. Quote from: john e on November 08, 2013, 05:49:23 PM well hes having a good go this season to be fair, MOTM in most if not all our games so farsecond half down at Chelsea he was the best midfielder on the pitch, he ran them ragged, they were praying for the full time whistle, he and KEA were destrying them in the middle, that's the best ive seen him in fairness, but Millner would not be able to replicate that display either, unless he was surrounded by worldbeatersMilner in 09/10: 12 goals, 15 assists.Delph since the turn of the year: 0 goals, 0 assists.I really like Delph now and he is our best midfielder by a country mile but to say he is getting anywhere near to Milner's level is absurd.
Quote from: Isa on November 08, 2013, 06:32:41 PMQuote from: not3bad on November 08, 2013, 04:48:33 PM It's a fair point. There is more to come from Delph and the fact that Milner was in a good midfield helped him stand out.That doesn't make sense. Standing out in a good midfield is obviously more difficult then standing out in a poor midfield. Quote from: john e on November 08, 2013, 05:49:23 PM well hes having a good go this season to be fair, MOTM in most if not all our games so farsecond half down at Chelsea he was the best midfielder on the pitch, he ran them ragged, they were praying for the full time whistle, he and KEA were destrying them in the middle, that's the best ive seen him in fairness, but Millner would not be able to replicate that display either, unless he was surrounded by worldbeatersMilner in 09/10: 12 goals, 15 assists.Delph since the turn of the year: 0 goals, 0 assists.I really like Delph now and he is our best midfielder by a country mile but to say he is getting anywhere near to Milner's level is absurd.I agree , Delph has been superb this season , but comparing him to Milner is way off the mark for me - lets see how things are in a years time , if he keeps the consistency and cuts out the silly bookings he will be a great shout for the player of the season award.Six months ago people were touting Westwood and Lowton for England on here - Delph is progressing nicely - lets hope we can tie him to a new deal and long may his form continue.