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Offline mr woo

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #180 on: October 20, 2013, 09:43:54 PM »
Delph constantly getting MOTM is damning him with faint praise for me. Our midfield is useless and he's the best of a bad bunch.
Delph is a very good footballer.

He is indeed.

As mentioned before, I find it incredible he only has a similar number of Premiership starts under his belt as Ashley Westwood.

He's probably the only member of our squad that has a realistic chance of making the England WC squad, despite what Gabby/The Sun and Lambert says.

At times I feel sorry for him. Countless times he traps the ball, drops his shoulder, beats one man, then another, only to lift his head to see Kozak rooted to the spot, hiding behind his marker with Gabby and Weimann motionless square of him in 'nothing' positions. Must be a creative midfielders nightmare....




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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #181 on: October 20, 2013, 09:45:30 PM »
Baker is our best defender

He occasionally puts in a camera friendly challenge, but his overall positional sense and his awareness mean at present that he shouldn't be near a premier league defense in my opinion. Just look at the no look pass he played straight to a Spurs player today.

If these sort of mistakes were a rarity with Baker then you could live with it. Problem is he's liable to make a howler once every couple of games

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #182 on: October 20, 2013, 09:45:55 PM »
I would be happy to see Delph sign a new deal as others have been rewarded recently who are nowhere near his quality.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #183 on: October 20, 2013, 09:48:43 PM »
We are looking like a mid-table side. Inconsistency is what you get with us. After amount of investment we had available (compared to Spuds for example) and last season, I'm not complaining.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #184 on: October 20, 2013, 09:50:02 PM »
 Did you see Clark last season taylor.Against Wigan, it was one of the worst defensive performances ever.

 Baker is young, but very competative.In about 2 or 3 seasons time, i think he will be a very good defender.For me he is better now, at this age, than Cahill was.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #185 on: October 20, 2013, 09:50:11 PM »
Baker is our best defender

I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. His diving challenges are a result of being hideously out of position all of the time and his concentration is so poor. He's a Championship defender, maybe a bottom end Premier League defender at best. All of our other defenders are much better than Baker.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2013, 09:51:06 PM »
Did you see Clark last season taylor.Against Wigan, it was one of the worst defensive performances ever.

 Baker is young, but very competative.In about 2 or 3 seasons time, i think he will be a very good defender.For me he is better now, at this age, than Cahill was.

Last season Clark was poor, but he's been completely different this year. Baker hasn't improved from his first game to now, he makes exactly the same errors.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2013, 09:51:30 PM »
Kozac doesn't bring much to the party, does he ?
Big improvement when Benteke came on.
Feck all creativity. Delph overworked in midfield.
I really thought we might finally give them a game today.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #188 on: October 20, 2013, 09:52:30 PM »

At times I feel sorry for him. Countless times he traps the ball, drops his shoulder, beats one man, then another, only to lift his head to see Kozak rooted to the spot, hiding behind his marker with Gabby and Weimann motionless square of him in 'nothing' positions. Must be a creative midfielders nightmare....


This was our major failing today. We're never too good at this, but today our forwards largely behaved as if they'd had frontal lobotomies when it came to positioning themselves to accept a forward ball from midfield.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #189 on: October 20, 2013, 09:53:26 PM »

At times I feel sorry for him. Countless times he traps the ball, drops his shoulder, beats one man, then another, only to lift his head to see Kozak rooted to the spot, hiding behind his marker with Gabby and Weimann motionless square of him in 'nothing' positions. Must be a creative midfielders nightmare....


This was our major failing today. We're never too good at this, but today our forwards largely behaved as if they'd had frontal lobotomies when it came to positioning themselves to accept a forward ball from midfield.

Yep movement is the problem, if Delph played for a Spurs or Arsenal he would be getting rave reviews.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #190 on: October 20, 2013, 09:55:01 PM »

At times I feel sorry for him. Countless times he traps the ball, drops his shoulder, beats one man, then another, only to lift his head to see Kozak rooted to the spot, hiding behind his marker with Gabby and Weimann motionless square of him in 'nothing' positions. Must be a creative midfielders nightmare....


This was our major failing today. We're never too good at this, but today our forwards largely behaved as if they'd had frontal lobotomies when it came to positioning themselves to accept a forward ball from midfield.

Yep movement is the problem, if Delph played for a Spurs or Arsenal he would be getting rave reviews.

The way he's playing now, I agree.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #191 on: October 20, 2013, 09:55:23 PM »
The only looked dangerous on the odd occasion gabby got wide and had the ball at his feet. Would like to see him hogging that touch line with Nzogbia or carruthers or Albrighton on the other flank.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #192 on: October 20, 2013, 09:56:17 PM »
I think the combined total of their bench today beats out net spend over the last few years.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #193 on: October 20, 2013, 09:57:07 PM »
 
 Baker saved us in a few games last season with his last ditch challenges, was it QPR, and Norwich, i don't remember any of Clarks defdending keeping us in a game.

 But Baker was'nt the problem today, and if Clark was playing, it would'nt have been him.The problems today were Gabby, Westwood and Weimann, and probably Kozak as well.The rest were ok

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #194 on: October 20, 2013, 09:58:08 PM »
Baker is our best defender

Can't really agree.

Would still give that award to Vlaar, who really is an assured act. Once you stop asking him to babysit the back four on his own that is.

 


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