Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Today was the first time Tonev looked quite useful, hopefully he's learning. What is going on with Helenius?

[ROBBO]

The game was even until they scored they gained confidence and never looked a threat from there on. Couple of points, Weiman works hard no-one disputes that so does Westwood and Kea but hard work never replaces genuine skill and that is what they and the side are lacking.For me our home record is so bad because of Lamberts insistance on playing without genuine wingers, we are far too narrow and make it easy for opposition defences to close us down.Kozak will never replace Benteke better start looking for someone else now doesn't look good value at all. Felt sorry for Delph, the only midfielder with the skills we need , thought he tried too hard in the end and got caught a few times. We are not a terrible side but i think Lambert made a big mistake in the summer by not getting another player of Delphs quality in. Villa without Benteke has nightmare written all over it.

[danno]

I think the only real differences to the City game were that our half chances didn't go in this time.

Bacunas free kick, Weimanns snatch shot, Gabbys chance in the first five minutes, Benteke's header over the bar...

I don't think a draw would have flattered us all that much.

[Toronto Villa]

I'm a believer in what Lambert is doing and I am praying hard the current set of signings has amongst that special talent. No club gets them all bang on. That said, and I accept our transfer policy last year and this, at some point the question needs to be asked -are we in this to win things or just to survive and be "competitive"? I'm all for building something but the next few windows needs to actually build on this and bring in players that move the needle so to speak. Players that are going to make a real difference and propel us forward and not sideways.

Today wasn't embarassing. It just revealed the gap that exists in those that will float in the middle and those that have aspirations of much more.

[Deano's Mullet]

Oh, and what's the story with the new camera angle at Villa Park? Felt like I was standing on the sideline.

It was like the old one pre-Doug Ellis Stand days.

[silhillvilla]

Spurs will be top 5 this season so we can't be too disheartened, last season was 0-4, now 0-2, next we will get 0-0 then in 2015/16 we win 2-0

[eastie]

Today was the first time Tonev looked quite useful, hopefully he's learning. What is going on with Helenius?

I think helenius may be one for the future although in pre season he impressed me its some of his flicks and passes.

[saunders_heroes]

Oh, and what's the story with the new camera angle at Villa Park? Felt like I was standing on the sideline.

It was like the old one pre-Doug Ellis Stand days.

Yeah I noticed that on the big screen then looked over and noticed the cameras were located in the middle of the two tiers. Never used to like the cameras in that position all those years ago. They're far too low.

[Somniloquism]

It's for the 3D innit.

[supertom]

The game was even until they scored they gained confidence and never looked a threat from there on. Couple of points, Weiman works hard no-one disputes that so does Westwood and Kea but hard work never replaces genuine skill and that is what they and the side are lacking.For me our home record is so bad because of Lamberts insistance on playing without genuine wingers, we are far too narrow and make it easy for opposition defences to close us down.Kozak will never replace Benteke better start looking for someone else now doesn't look good value at all. Felt sorry for Delph, the only midfielder with the skills we need , thought he tried too hard in the end and got caught a few times. We are not a terrible side but i think Lambert made a big mistake in the summer by not getting another player of Delphs quality in. Villa without Benteke has nightmare written all over it.

I felt a little for Delph. He was the only one with any drive in midfield. He was getting more and more frustrated as the game went on, but in truth he's had to do a lot himself this season. Westy has been largely poor. KEA has been middling (though poor in recent weeks). Sylla looked good against City but hasn't had much of a sniff since then.

Delph can't do it all himself. He's also not the guy who's going to pick out a clinical pinpoint pass. At times he's trying to take up the mantle and force that. If we had a decent creative midfielder it would take pressure of Delph and he can concentrate on doing what he does best.

[eastie]

I think most of us saw last season we were lacking experienced defensive cover and a creative midfielder and both of these problems still remain in my view.

[Somniloquism]

Delph can't do it all himself. He's also not the guy who's going to pick out a clinical pinpoint pass. At times he's trying to take up the mantle and force that. If we had a decent creative midfielder it would take pressure of Delph and he can concentrate on doing what he does best.

He played a sublime pass into the run of Weimann (I think) in the second half but the move came to nothing with a blocked or rushed effort

[Mister E]

Delph constantly getting MOTM is damning him with faint praise for me. Our midfield is useless and he's the best of a bad bunch.

Delph is a very good footballer.

[supertom]

I think most of us saw last season we were lacking experienced defensive cover and a creative midfielder and both of these problems still remain in my view.

Yep. I actually think today we missed Clarky.
Baker for me is a liability. I think he broke into the side for want of more options to be honest. I don't see him last beyond another couple of years. He's a championship player.
Clark has the potential and he had a bad season last year, but he's started well this season and may well become a long term player for us.

An experienced guy in there helping the defence would be useful.

[PaulWinch again]

I think most of us saw last season we were lacking experienced defensive cover and a creative midfielder and both of these problems still remain in my view.

Yep. I actually think today we missed Clarky.
Baker for me is a liability. I think he broke into the side for want of more options to be honest. I don't see him last beyond another couple of years. He's a championship player.
Clark has the potential and he had a bad season last year, but he's started well this season and may well become a long term player for us.

An experienced guy in there helping the defence would be useful.

I agree Clark has been really good this year and is looking like the player I hoped he would be. Baker just isn't very good at all.