Hull City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Damo70]

Kozak was climbed all over yesterday, again. Stop slagging the bloke off before you have seen him play properly. Ffs, sometimes, some of our fans really piss me off with their negativity. Look at where we were 3 seasons ago, look at us know. Get a fucking grip some of you. Idiots.
What do you want ? The Prem handed to you on a silver bloody platter, Lambert to unearth 22 players of Benteke's quality on a fraction of the budget that the top six teams have ? Herds of wilderbeest, galloping majestically across the Plains ?
Get real.

I would go for a five year plan. Start off with a few wilderbeast, then herds of them and ultimately Sydney Opera House and The Hanging Gardens Of Babylon too.

[Concrete John]

To say it wasn't a classic is putting it mildly, but it's hard to be downbeat about it.  Last year, playing like that would have seen us get beat, so to me a point is progress and shows this team is starting to mature a little.  We were the better team, but the forwards didn't fire Saturday, which happens to all teams from time to time.

Must mention Clark who seems to have got his act together defensively since he's come back into the side!
 

[Damo70]

To say it wasn't a classic is putting it mildly, but it's hard to be downbeat about it.  Last year, playing like that would have seen us get beat, so to me a point is progress and shows this team is starting to mature a little.  We were the better team, but the forwards didn't fire Saturday, which happens to all teams from time to time.

Must mention Clark who seems to have got his act together defensively since he's come back into the side!
 

Sorry if it makes me boring or negative, but two clean sheets in three PL games is a big step in the right direction as far as 'm concerned.

[supertom]

Honestly as dreary as it was on saturday going forward, I'm still on the whole pleased that our defence appears to be improving. We're arguably without out best (or most promising) center half at the moment, whilst our first choice right back from last season wasn't playing either. Concrete Ron is looking ever more like Concrete and ever less like Blamange. Clark has been almost shockingly consistent since being put in the side, particularly as he'd been all but written off on here by many (myself included).

That's two away games on the spin without conceding. One a scrappy 1-0 win and a 0-0. That to me is definite progress. If we expect to win every game 3-2 we're not gonna get very far. You've got to grind results out sometimes because you could find yourself A- without your top scorer, or B- just having one of those games where nothing goes right in the final third.

We do seem solidly mid-table at the moment and perhaps 1-2 signings away from pushing on. I don't see us breaking the top 7 but I think we could stake a claim for best of the rest if we can get a playmaker in Jan.

[Concrete John]

We do seem solidly mid-table at the moment and perhaps 1-2 signings away from pushing on. I don't see us breaking the top 7 but I think we could stake a claim for best of the rest if we can get a playmaker in Jan.

If I was to think where we need improvement, not that we couldn't get better in a multitude of positions, I'd be thinking and number 10 and possibly a better wide option.

But then we've got Helenius and Tonev, so perhaps that extra push may come from a couple of the summer signings settling in more and having an impact?

[eamonn]

Albrighton and Zoggy could be those better wide options. Just give 'em a chance, John.

[danlanza]

Kozak was climbed all over yesterday, again. Stop slagging the bloke off before you have seen him play properly. Ffs, sometimes, some of our fans really piss me off with their negativity. Look at where we were 3 seasons ago, look at us know. Get a fucking grip some of you. Idiots.
What do you want ? The Prem handed to you on a silver bloody platter, Lambert to unearth 22 players of Benteke's quality on a fraction of the budget that the top six teams have ? Herds of wilderbeest, galloping majestically across the Plains ?
Get real.

I would go for a five year plan. Start off with a few wilderbeast, then herds of them and ultimately Sydney Opera House and The Hanging Gardens Of Babylon too.

I was thinking exactly the same.

[supertom]

Albrighton and Zoggy could be those better wide options. Just give 'em a chance, John.

If we can finally get the best out of Zogbia it would be good. I think the issue last season was that, although he played well, our side looked imbalanced with him in. That was more a tactical issue though. For Zog to play I think you need to drop one of Gabby or Wiemann. Carrying all three makes us too light in central midfield.

Albrighton could offer something if he can reclaim his Houllier form. We really lack width in the attacking third.

[Clampy]

I think Albrighton would have been perfect on Saturday down that right side. Not sure why he didn't even make the bench.

[OCD]

I'm assuming Albrighton had some sort of a knock otherwise the choice of substitutes was strange given the lack of attacking players and his performance against Tottenham.

We would have to change to a 4-2-3-1 formation to accommodate N'Zog behind the main striker. He's not looked the part in wide positions. Last season the 2 defensive midfielders weren't good enough for that system to work so we would have to be careful when and where we used that system. So for a £60k/week player, we're already limited as to when we could use him.

Most, if not all of us want that playmaker behind the main striker. The midfield's got to grow and develop a bit first though. Probably why Lambert's not rushed to buy that playmaker.

[ADVILLAFAN]

God it was a boring game, our best chance being when Bacuna went past a few of their players and pulled a cross back, but Gabby put it wide.

We need Benteke back, Kozak hardly won a header all game.

[Ads]

I think Bacuna in the midfield three with Delph and Sylla would be interesting.

It would certainly be quick and physical.

[Concrete John]

Albrighton and Zoggy could be those better wide options. Just give 'em a chance, John.

If we can finally get the best out of Zogbia it would be good. I think the issue last season was that, although he played well, our side looked imbalanced with him in. That was more a tactical issue though. For Zog to play I think you need to drop one of Gabby or Wiemann. Carrying all three makes us too light in central midfield.

You can't really trust N'Zogbia wide as he tends to wander and not hold his position.  Hence why he's better central with that freedom to do that anyway.  Once fit, I see him as a useful option from the bench.  However, like Bent we need more than that for the money we're paying him, so I think he'll go next summer.

[paul_e]

We do seem solidly mid-table at the moment and perhaps 1-2 signings away from pushing on. I don't see us breaking the top 7 but I think we could stake a claim for best of the rest if we can get a playmaker in Jan.

If I was to think where we need improvement, not that we couldn't get better in a multitude of positions, I'd be thinking and number 10 and possibly a better wide option.

But then we've got Helenius and Tonev, so perhaps that extra push may come from a couple of the summer signings settling in more and having an impact?

I think it'd done a lot of good for Tonev if someone had thrown themself at the cross-shot not long after he came on, I have no idea what he was intending with it but it became a very dangerous ball between the keeper and his defence but none of our forwards were chasing it in, when you have 3 men at the post you need one of them to gamble on those and throw a foot at it.

[PeterWithesShin]

For all we go on about the likes of Chavski and Cit£h selling their souls for modern football, Hull Tigers of Humberside take some beating. Sponsored stadium name, player sponsors mentioned every time there is a substitution. So over the tannoy you get "Replacing number 8, sponsored by Northern Pies, Garry Northenfella, is number 22, sponsored by the English Defence League, Barry Nomark.

They even sponsor added time. Fucking sell outs.