Hull City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[supertom]

Dire match. Utterly woeful. That'll be last on for MOTD.

Positives- Clean sheet. The defence is looking better and better.
Man of the match for me was Clarky. There's almost a sense that we're waiting for him to do something calamitous been to be fair to Clackers this season he's been very good. He was near faultless today. At the over end of the pitch I have to credit to Curtis Davies. He had Kozak in his pocket all game. He looked like the player we had potentially hoped for.

Delph was also excellent again. The fullbacks were pretty good too, but didn't get forward as much second half.

Negatives- Midfield. No cutting edge. KEA did at least show a bit of ambition to push forward and try and score, but he only had half chances at best. As for picking a killer pass himself? Nope. Westwood is still struggling.
Tonev for me looks out of his depth. It is early days certainly, but he just looks a little spindly. Technically he's not brilliant. He's quick and a direct runner, but it's all pace and no touch or guile.
Wiemann has far too many anonymous games for my liking. He needs to be played through the middle too. He's not a right sided player.
Kozak has to show much better movement and get involved in the game more. He's essentially doing what Darren Bent does and waiting for service. The difference is, Bent can be a 15-20 goal forward playing that role. Can Kozak? He put himself about well against City, and had Wiemann in and around him. He's got to do more. In games like today when he had no service, he's got to impose himself on the game and try to make things happen. He's a different player I know but the fact of the matter is, he's replacing Benteke. That mantle is not easy to fill but he's got to get closer to that level. He was miles off today.

Next game I'd like to see Albrighton, Helenius and perhaps Johnson come into the matchday squad. I'd probably start Alby ahead of Wiemann at the moment. It could be beneficial having a wideman putting in some crosses. Bowery is never gonna make it at this level. I honestly don't see the point in playing him. Helenius is a Danish international, so he really has to be getting game time.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Thank god it's over.

No ambition.

[Matt Collins]

Aaaarrgh. Weimann doesn't need a kick up the arse. Is there any suggestion he's not trying. I find it incredibly frustrating that fans always leap to that conclusion.

Decent-ish point and now on a good run including two clean sheets in three. But with Everton and spurs coming up we could have done with a win. They'll both be very tough indeed.

I think we'll be fine this year, but it does look like I overestimated how creative we're likely to be this season. Westwood and lowton's poor form has much to do with that.

Very interesting Lowton didn't even make the bench, though sounds like bacuna did well again and the defence overall is looking a lot better.

The midfield is looking pretty poor at the moment, Delph apart. I don't think bacuna is the answer to those specific problems.

Am I imagining it or were we actually knocking the ball around pretty well, making nice triangles, in the back end of last season?

Hard to see what Tonev offers over CNZ at the moment. I know CNZ is injured, but his new shirt number surely indicates he's not in lambert's plans?

Interesting to see how we shape up v spurs. I can't see us getting much out of it.

[PaulWinch again]

Bacuna has made the right back position his own he was excellent. N'Zogbia would be a good option in that side if fit, we need a bit of spark.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Dreadful.

An away draw is not dreadful.

Never said it was, I said the performance was DREADFUL. Are you disagreeing ?

[mr woo]

We were the better of two distinctly average sides.
Considering a win would have put us in the top six, we really lacked any sort of adventure, but when you looked at the bench it was obvious there wasn't a single player there that could provide that spark we needed.

Positives the back four who looked comfortable, thanks mainly to hulls dire attack, and Fabian Delph, once again our best player by a country mile.

Negatives..
Andi Piemann, still apparently overweight from what I can see.
Kodak or whatever he's called. Has the obligatory poor touch for a big man, which wouldnt be such a problem if he was a threat in the air. Which he isn't. In fact, Im not sure I've seen him jump more than six inches off the ground.

Also sorry to say PL isn't absolved of any blame here either. I know he was a central defensive midfielder himself but is he so fond of them we have to play THREE of them every week?

Thought Sylla, Albrighton and Helenius were all worth a shout at some point today. If they were injured that's another matter.

[timeoutbigbar]

A point and a clean sheet away from home is never a disaster, just a bit of a let down considering how poor Hull were.  Good time for an international break off the back of 7 points from 9, a couple of weeks rest for those not on international duty and then bring back the beast.

[PaulWinch again]

Dreadful.

An away draw is not dreadful.

Never said it was, I said the performance was DREADFUL. Are you disagreeing ?

Did you? You just wrote 'dreadful'. In any case it wasn't polished, but it was defensively sound though. It was nowhere near dreadful.

[sirlordbaltimore]

If i had to score the entire side i'd probably doze off again. I would however give Weimann & Kozak about 1/10 each.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Dreadful.

An away draw is not dreadful.

Never said it was, I said the performance was DREADFUL. Are you disagreeing ?

Did you? You just wrote 'dreadful'. In any case it wasn't polished, but it was defensively sound though. It was nowhere near dreadful.

You are entitled to that opinion, it seems i'm not the only one that disagrees. Dreadful is being kind

[danno]

I heard that Hull have conceded only one goal in their last four home games.
Given how bad we are at keeping clean sheets I thought they'd probably nick it.
So all in all I'm fairly happy with the point.

[PaulWinch again]

Dreadful.

An away draw is not dreadful.

Never said it was, I said the performance was DREADFUL. Are you disagreeing ?

Did you? You just wrote 'dreadful'. In any case it wasn't polished, but it was defensively sound though. It was nowhere near dreadful.

You are entitled to that opinion, it seems i'm not the only one that disagrees. Dreadful is being kind

Dreadful is 8-0 against Chelsea and getting played off the park. Bit of perspective is needed. It wasn't great, but it wasn't dreadful.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Bit of perspective is needed. It wasn't great, but it wasn't dreadful.

In your opinion. Mine differs

[Ads]

I have never been so bored at a game in all my days.

The first thing I want to say though is a fuck you to the racist wankers that are your Hull fans. Inbred, EDL wankers.

As to the game; dross.

It was such a strange performance, as we kept looking for Kozak, who won nothing in the air. Every now and again we remembered that we were footballers, usually when Delph got the ball, and worked an opening.

We created half chances and forced McGregor into a few saves you'd expect him to make, but nothing clear cut.  Gabby was nowhere near fit.

Westwood and KEA should not play together, but hats off to Delph; absolute quality and he made that lummux Huddlestone look like the immobile lumpit mechant that he is. Hull tried to kick him off the park.

We were not at the races by any stretch and were worse than poor. The positives being we were away from home, kept a clean sheet and picked up a point. If you're going to be poor, don't get beat.

Having said that, Hull could still be playing now and they wouldn't score. They are certs to go down. They scored few goals last season and unless they're getting soft penalties every week, they've got no hope.

[PaulWinch again]

What word would you use to describe 8-0 against Chelsea or 3-0 at home to Wigan then?