Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[Surrey Villain]

I'd like to know who made this decision that we should take The League Cup lightly? I watched the 77 final on you tube the other night and was still proud of winning it. We just accept mediocrity   now and take defeat like it means fuck all.
Its only September and were 'resting' players. Is avoiding relegation all we have to look forward to?

We were resting players who have knocks. Why is that so hard to grasp?

Not totally true, even if all fit i doubt lambert would have played his strongest team having read his comments regarding the man city game and the importance of it .
Guzan wasnt injured and was rested and i think had it been a league game he would not have sent that side out last night .
It seems as many have pointed out that the premiership is the be all and end all and the cups are not taken as seriously which is sad to see , this was probably our best hope of silverware this season and its gone .

I think if all our players had been fit he probably would have made one or two changes at the most but the team still would have been stronger than it was last night. I think it's obvious that he might have risked the one's carrying knocks had it been a league game.

Better not bother buying tickets for the FA Cup game on 4th January because we have a big game against Arsenal the following week!

[Clampy]

yes there were some injuries and knocks but he could have put out a stronger side if he had wished.

But you don't know that for sure. Gabby and Luna were both carrying knocks on Saturday so playing them again 3 days later would have been a risk.

[dave.woodhall]

I'd like to know who made this decision that we should take The League Cup lightly? I watched the 77 final on you tube the other night and was still proud of winning it. We just accept mediocrity   now and take defeat like it means fuck all.
Its only September and were 'resting' players. Is avoiding relegation all we have to look forward to?

We were resting players who have knocks. Why is that so hard to grasp?

Not totally true, even if all fit i doubt lambert would have played his strongest team having read his comments regarding the man city game and the importance of it .
Guzan wasnt injured and was rested and i think had it been a league game he would not have sent that side out last night .
It seems as many have pointed out that the premiership is the be all and end all and the cups are not taken as seriously which is sad to see , this was probably our best hope of silverware this season and its gone .

We were short-changed.  I felt embarrassed and let down by the performance. Whatever happened to the 'Proud History, Bright Future'?  Our proud history includes a proud record in the League Cup. Our heritage is important but I feel it was dealt a huge blow last night. Yes we have a proud history but it may be that is all we have to savour because the future will not be bright if we continue to sacrifice our tradition to the altar of the Premier League.

When was the last time we put out a full team in the League Cup?

[Clampy]

I'd like to know who made this decision that we should take The League Cup lightly? I watched the 77 final on you tube the other night and was still proud of winning it. We just accept mediocrity   now and take defeat like it means fuck all.
Its only September and were 'resting' players. Is avoiding relegation all we have to look forward to?

We were resting players who have knocks. Why is that so hard to grasp?

Not totally true, even if all fit i doubt lambert would have played his strongest team having read his comments regarding the man city game and the importance of it .
Guzan wasnt injured and was rested and i think had it been a league game he would not have sent that side out last night .
It seems as many have pointed out that the premiership is the be all and end all and the cups are not taken as seriously which is sad to see , this was probably our best hope of silverware this season and its gone .

I think if all our players had been fit he probably would have made one or two changes at the most but the team still would have been stronger than it was last night. I think it's obvious that he might have risked the one's carrying knocks had it been a league game.

Better not bother buying tickets for the FA Cup game on 4th January because we have a big game against Arsenal the following week!

That's up to the individual fan to decide I suppose.

[stubbsyandy]

I'd like to know who made this decision that we should take The League Cup lightly? I watched the 77 final on you tube the other night and was still proud of winning it. We just accept mediocrity   now and take defeat like it means fuck all.
Its only September and were 'resting' players. Is avoiding relegation all we have to look forward to?

We were resting players who have knocks. Why is that so hard to grasp?

Not totally true, even if all fit i doubt lambert would have played his strongest team having read his comments regarding the man city game and the importance of it .
Guzan wasnt injured and was rested and i think had it been a league game he would not have sent that side out last night .
It seems as many have pointed out that the premiership is the be all and end all and the cups are not taken as seriously which is sad to see , this was probably our best hope of silverware this season and its gone .

We were short-changed.  I felt embarrassed and let down by the performance. Whatever happened to the 'Proud History, Bright Future'?  Our proud history includes a proud record in the League Cup. Our heritage is important but I feel it was dealt a huge blow last night. Yes we have a proud history but it may be that is all we have to savour because the future will not be bright if we continue to sacrifice our tradition to the altar of the Premier League.

When was the last time we put out a full team in the League Cup?

Wembley 2010

[eastie]

yes there were some injuries and knocks but he could have put out a stronger side if he had wished.

But you don't know that for sure. Gabby and Luna were both carrying knocks on Saturday so playing them again 3 days later would have been a risk.

Guzan and Weimann ?  I appreciate some had knocks and accept your point but i just think its sad the way the premiership has become the holy grail and the cups taken more lightly , thats all.

[London Villan]

Id rather take the cup games seriously and play the reserves against the top 3/4... We will get twatted on saturday whatever team we have out...

[eastie]

Id rather take the cup games seriously and play the reserves against the top 3/4... We will get twatted on saturday whatever team we have out...

Interesting and probably true .

[Chris Smith]

Id rather take the cup games seriously and play the reserves against the top 3/4... We will get twatted on saturday whatever team we have out...

Then if they had played last night and aggravated their injuries and were out for longer the manager gets called an idiot for risking them. With Benteke already out surely he has to use a bit of common sense.

[Clampy]

Id rather take the cup games seriously and play the reserves against the top 3/4... We will get twatted on saturday whatever team we have out...

Personally I think that's a mad idea.

[London Villan]

Why though, last season showed even we had a chance to win something, get into europe etc. getting thumped by the top four is no fun and pretty predictable at the moment. Id rather have a day at wembely and finish in the bottom half.

[Clampy]

Why though, last season showed even we had a chance to win something, get into europe etc. getting thumped by the top four is no fun and pretty predictable at the moment. Id rather have a day at wembely and finish in the bottom half.

It's a ridiculous idea, sorry. Besides we didn't get thumped on the opening day or at Chelsea.

[eastie]

Why though, last season showed even we had a chance to win something, get into europe etc. getting thumped by the top four is no fun and pretty predictable at the moment. Id rather have a day at wembely and finish in the bottom half.

It's a ridiculous idea, sorry. Besides we didn't get thumped on the opening day or at Chelsea.

Your point is a valid one clampy and  the thing that needs to be addressed fast is that we look a reasonable side away from home and a poor side at home - we must find a way of playing at villa park which puts more pressure on the opposition and takes the game to them - our home form is of huge concern and not just the results but the style of play .

We are very much Jekyll and Hyde.

[walsall villain]

Hoping we don't get a long injury list based on what was one show last night. Buying in young players seems to mean having to be extremely patient while they adapt to the higher standard of opposition. As with the youngsters last year this means we need to get the likes of Tonev and Bacuna playing and suffer the consequences. I wonder whether the fans will be as patient this time around? Only bright point for me was Sylla but he cocked up at the death resulting in the last goal. Oh, and albrighton tried hard but just can't beat a player anymore.

[Dave Clark Five]

I'd like to know who made this decision that we should take The League Cup lightly? I watched the 77 final on you tube the other night and was still proud of winning it. We just accept mediocrity   now and take defeat like it means fuck all.
Its only September and were 'resting' players. Is avoiding relegation all we have to look forward to?

Thinking of 1977 and earlier times brings two-legged ties / replays (more than one if necessary) to mind.
I must admit that a replay in this competition would be a pain these days. There is no enthusiasm.