Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[Tuscans]

Christ, if its like this tonight I can't wait for Saturday :S

Saturday is just another league game. Tonight we are out of the cup without even a whimper.

You were there, I wasn't, I have to acknowledge your first hand experience of this match.
I did hear on the radio that Villa players put up a fight. And there was the dodgy penalty non decision. They were keeping possession and attacking, apparently.  I can't ask for more from the players we have. They still have to develop and get better. And, they will!

Effort, running, putting your foot in is the bare minimum you expect from any professional footballer, and that they did. It's quality and quite a bit of it they lack and I mean quality in terms of awareness, composure, positioning, etc. I see that so I don't expect too much.

[bertlambshank]

So, we're now the English equivalent of the Cleveland Browns.

Because we lost a League Cup third round tie?

In isolation you would have a point, but we've had too many of these type of performances since Lambert took over.

We also had a lot of them under every other manager, including worse cup results than tonight which have been forgotten.

You're right we have, but Lambert has provided us with some quite humiliating results in his short time at Villa.

Would you get rid of him now then?

No, I'd give him till Christmas. If we're struggling at the foot of the table he should be given the boot. I think he's damn lucky to be still in the job if I'm honest. Managers have been sacked for a lot less than the shit he's put us through. I certainly accept that he's had his hands tied behind his back by Lerner's lack of cash, but what little money he's been given (especially this summer) I don't think he's spent well. I'm flabbergasted that he only thought it wise to buy one centre back (a 20 year old as well) when we had the worst defence in recent memory.
Surely you're not happy seeing us being thumped like this so often, especially at home?

I'm pissed off about tonight, but it has to be accepted that this competition doesn't really matter - the crowd alone is proof of that. As for being thumped like it so often, when was the last time we lost by more than one goal? As for "Lerner's lack of cash," perhaps you'd care to list how many managers have spent more in the last two summers.

Losing is losing TSM liked to keep it tight at 1-0 down.Paul Lambert needs to start playing with pace from the start.And has I said in the match thread the team has all the shape of the Blob.We needed Quality in the summer and we didn't get it.Randy cant be blamed for that unless he was unwilling to pay the wages to get the quality players in.

[saunders_heroes]

So, we're now the English equivalent of the Cleveland Browns.

Because we lost a League Cup third round tie?

In isolation you would have a point, but we've had too many of these type of performances since Lambert took over.

We also had a lot of them under every other manager, including worse cup results than tonight which have been forgotten.

You're right we have, but Lambert has provided us with some quite humiliating results in his short time at Villa.

Would you get rid of him now then?

No, I'd give him till Christmas. If we're struggling at the foot of the table he should be given the boot. I think he's damn lucky to be still in the job if I'm honest. Managers have been sacked for a lot less than the shit he's put us through. I certainly accept that he's had his hands tied behind his back by Lerner's lack of cash, but what little money he's been given (especially this summer) I don't think he's spent well. I'm flabbergasted that he only thought it wise to buy one centre back (a 20 year old as well) when we had the worst defence in recent memory.
Surely you're not happy seeing us being thumped like this so often, especially at home?

I'm pissed off about tonight, but it has to be accepted that this competition doesn't really matter - the crowd alone is proof of that. As for being thumped like it so often, when was the last time we lost by more than one goal? As for "Lerner's lack of cash," perhaps you'd care to list how many managers have spent more in the last two summers.

I'm not going to list the humiliating results Lambert's inflicted on us since he took over, but as you well know there have been far too many, and if you honestly think Lambert's had enough cash to spend to improve such an average squad then we'll have to agree to disagree on that subject. Our squad wasn't good enough before Lerner slightly opened his wallet in the summer, and it still wasn't good enough when he slammed it shut.

[Legion]

I really wish I'd have put a question mark instead of a full-stop.

[dave.woodhall]

How much money do you think an owner should donate to his club every summer then?

[Tuscans]

How much money do you think an owner should donate to his club every summer then?

Every penny you have left after all your outgoings

[Dave Clark Five]

When the manager intimates it isn't as important as the Citeh game, then you can't expect too much really.

That will be even worse than 0-4.

[saunders_heroes]

How much money do you think an owner should donate to his club every summer then?

He could speculate to accumulate. We didn't mind telling Doug Ellis to do the same year in year out.

[Legion]

Knowing Villa, we'll probably draw or win.

[bertlambshank]

How much money do you think an owner should donate to his club every summer then?

He isn't donating anything,investing yes.But just like his other ventures it seems to be going tits up.

[Tuscans]

When the manager intimates it isn't as important as the Citeh game, then you can't expect too much really.

That will be even worse than 0-4.

I expect that especially at home

[Colin B]

Was this referee the same "Moss" who gave the soft penalty in the ManU Palace game and sent the Palace player off?

Surely pulling a players shorts down is a worse offence?

[Louzie0]

Christ, if its like this tonight I can't wait for Saturday :S

Saturday is just another league game. Tonight we are out of the cup without even a whimper.

You were there, I wasn't, I have to acknowledge your first hand experience of this match.
I did hear on the radio that Villa players put up a fight. And there was the dodgy penalty non decision. They were keeping possession and attacking, apparently.  I can't ask for more from the players we have. They still have to develop and get better. And, they will!

Effort, running, putting your foot in is the bare minimum you expect from any professional footballer, and that they did. It's quality and quite a bit of it they lack and I mean quality in terms of awareness, composure, positioning, etc. I see that so I don't expect too much.

well I would. Seriously, a PL team showed nothing?
That is unacceptable and I think you are wrong, going by what I heard.

[Legion]

I'll stick the Money City pre-match thread on later this morning.

[bertlambshank]

Christ, if its like this tonight I can't wait for Saturday :S

Saturday is just another league game. Tonight we are out of the cup without even a whimper.

You were there, I wasn't, I have to acknowledge your first hand experience of this match.
I did hear on the radio that Villa players put up a fight. And there was the dodgy penalty non decision. They were keeping possession and attacking, apparently.  I can't ask for more from the players we have. They still have to develop and get better. And, they will!

Effort, running, putting your foot in is the bare minimum you expect from any professional footballer, and that they did. It's quality and quite a bit of it they lack and I mean quality in terms of awareness, composure, positioning, etc. I see that so I don't expect too much.

well I would. Seriously, a PL team showed nothing?
That is unacceptable and I think you are wrong, going by what I heard.

They didn't show a lot.