Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[mrfuse]

And the more I think about it, Im struggling to think of anything as bad  under McLeish as I've witnessed at home already this season.

The football was dull, but the organization was there. At least the players gave the impression they were being coached and working to a plan.

While I'm not saying for one minute I want to go back to that, you've got to start questioning Paul Lamberts credentials. What has he done to address the glaringly obvious failings of last season?

Is the Emperor as well dressed as we thought he was?

Your joking right !!! The Football under McLeish was abysmal.   

[Marton]

Sure some games are more important then others but we should NEVER have to edure humilation on Villa Park to Spurs.

Sylla was good for most of the time, getting us some possession and Bacuna looks like he is improving with every game. Both look very fit and powerful.

Bowry did what he does best, find a way to be invisable in plain sight...

Baker is clearly still subpar to Clark, who in turn is not much worse then Vlaar. The sad thing being is thats not a high mark to aim for.

Bennet didnt do any worse then Luna. Some good attempts going forward in 2nd half but poor crosses aiming for God knows Who.

Helenius clearly need some quality around him. I think rather have him over Tonev as a complementing target behind Benteke as an offensive midfielder.

And lets hope Guzan never ever gets injured because he wouldnt let those crappy finishes at 2nd and 3rd get past him.

[achilles]

Spurs have consistently spent big, got lucky with the Bale fee and are now reaping the rewards. I think they will finish top 3.

We are the opposite. Sell our best players aNd pay peanuts  to replace them.

Bet Benteke is regretting his decision to stay.

UTV

Stephen Ireland was our best player?

No, but Milner, Barry, Young and Downing were (and others too) I think that's what he was getting at. We've sold too many good players and replaced them with inferior ones. That's why we as a club have plummeted.

... and it will continue with Benteke leaving next summer!

[andyh]

Spurs?
At home ?
In the cup?

I thought we'd at least try and give them a fucking game.

[dicedlam]

If Helenius had not been sexually assaulted it might of been a different game.
I'm sure the original comments made by PL that we were serious about the cup were made with good intentions. However, injuries over the weekend probably blew his team selection for tonight out of the water.

I think that there were some positives to have out of tonight. Albrighton not yet back to his best, but it must of given him some confidence getting a game and doing ok.     
And Both Helenius and Bacuna I think he will be a good player's once they get up to the speed of the Premier League.

[mr woo]

Helenius looks like he could be quite useful.

I know......AND he has a big dangly cock.

[SoccerHQ]

And the more I think about it, Im struggling to think of anything as bad  under McLeish as I've witnessed at home already this season.

The football was dull, but the organization was there. At least the players gave the impression they were being coached and working to a plan.

While I'm not saying for one minute I want to go back to that, you've got to start questioning Paul Lamberts credentials. What has he done to address the glaringly obvious failings of last season?

Is the Emperor as well dressed as we thought he was?

Your joking right !!! The Football under McLeish was abysmal.   

TSM's final home game at VP was against Spurs. We were 1 up and they had Danny Rose sent off. What happened? Spurs dominated possession, quickly equalised and should've beaten us. With 10 men.

It's always tempting things were better previously but they really weren't.

[placeforparks]

aside from the fact that we looked like a league 1 side huffing and puffing against one of the big boys, none of the new signings have moved the team onto a next level.

you look at spurs and the strength they have in depth, they technically piss all over us, and that has happened in 4 years or so. the difference? savvy leadership at the top.

yet despite all that spending...they wont win the league and that's the big problem with the premier League .

i'm surprised you can dismiss them. they'll certainly be up there.

[SamTheMouse]

And the more I think about it, Im struggling to think of anything as bad  under McLeish as I've witnessed at home already this season.

The football was dull, but the organization was there. At least the players gave the impression they were being coached and working to a plan.

While I'm not saying for one minute I want to go back to that, you've got to start questioning Paul Lamberts credentials. What has he done to address the glaringly obvious failings of last season?

Is the Emperor as well dressed as we thought he was?

I like Lambert, and want him to do well, but I'm a bit concerned with our progress.

Our defence was shockingly bad last season. I mean, let's be honest, it was absolutely atrocious. You'd think that any sensible manager's first priority would have been to bring in some better quality defenders and try to rebalance the midfield to give us a proper screen in front of the back four. Now of course, he's been very unlucky with the Okore injury, and the young lad does look like he's going to be a really good signing. But he didn't bring in any proven quality at all, no experience in either defence or midfield. He's persisting with a midfield set-up that involves three central players charging around pressing the opposition, with nobody given specific instructions to sit and move laterally to mop up attacks and calm the play like Petrov did, and nobody specifically given licence to roam in front of the front men.

To me, he hasn't addressed the fundamental problems we had last year, he's just signed like for like players to expand the squad, not improve it. So logically, we can expect more of the same, until the existing players become better and more experienced themselves. Which is going to take a long time, and may not happen at all in some cases, especially if they have nobody better than them at the club to learn from.

[Rudy65]

Quote from: Louzie0 on Today at 10:08:15 PM
Quote from: Rudy65 on Today at 10:05:49 PM
Spurs have consistently spent big, got lucky with the Bale fee and are now reaping the rewards. I think they will finish top 3.

We are the opposite. Sell our best players aNd pay peanuts  to replace them.

Bet Benteke is regretting his decision to stay.

UTV
Stephen Ireland was our best player?

No, but Milner, Barry, Young and Downing were (and others too) I think that's what he was getting at. We've sold too many good players and replaced them with inferior ones. That's why we as a club have plummeted.

Correct

In addition we break our record transfer fee on Bent who is then out on loan 2 years later. More money wasted.That and £20m on Ireland in the fee and wages. You couldn't make it up.

When we invest money we waste it

[Louzie0]

Spurs have consistently spent big, got lucky with the Bale fee and are now reaping the rewards. I think they will finish top 3.

We are the opposite. Sell our best players aNd pay peanuts  to replace them.

Bet Benteke is regretting his decision to stay.

UTV

Stephen Ireland was our best player?

No, but Milner, Barry, Young and Downing were (and others too) I think that's what he was getting at. We've sold too many good players and replaced them with inferior ones. That's why we as a club have plummeted.

... and it will continue with Benteke leaving next summer!

Ok - all into the cut!

[Desontheholte]

I've been a villa fan now for 30 oddyears! I've neve witnessed such  a load of shite  like  that! Fuck me we have fallen!

[PeterWithesShin]

Just as shit as the performance was the attendance. less than 20,000 Villa fans arsed to go to a cheap game is shit.

[paulcomben]

@MatKendrick: Hearing that Christian Benteke is out for a month #avfc

[bertlambshank]

I've been a villa fan now for 30 oddyears! I've neve witnessed such  a load of shite  like  that! Fuck me we have fallen!

It wasn't an Arsenal in 1986.