Here in London (I'm not sure about other parts of the country) it is quite common for the word gay to be used in that way. Mainly amongst younger people I should add. Which goes back to my point about understanding the intention when such words are used.
Quote from: supertom on September 20, 2013, 05:38:31 PMQuote from: Isa on September 20, 2013, 05:24:47 PMAgree with most of that supertom. Other, then some chants from away fans at Brighton, is there really anything else truely homophobic in the English game? The barometer I guess will be (if ever) when a player openly comes out.I mean to some extent you'll always get a few fans in the stands calling players "poofs" or whatever, but it's not that common. And honestly, as footy fans, when we're pissed off we can use far more colourful language that that. Obviously though, if you cant take a bit of risque, potentially offensive language then you've got no place being at a football ground, because I don't care where you are, you'll hear something. Obviously there are certain things truly unacceptable, like racist chants but that's thankfully a rarity in the English game now.I know two gay guys and seriously, you couldn't pay them a million quid to watch a football match, even if Beckham played the entire match in nothing but his budgie smugglers. They'd rather go shopping. That said...if we play like we did against Newcastle again, I might have to join them! I totally disagree, and that's the sort of approach that used to get taken to racism as well "it's just people letting off steam".And there is a difference between "offensive" language along the lines of people effing and blinding and people chanting about how Upson "takes it up the arse". I can't see how anyone can fail to spot the difference there, but that's precisely what you're doing if you're just filing it under offensive language.Your story about the two gay guys you know is of no real relevance. I know plenty of gay people, and some of them like football. The fact you know some who don't like it at all means absolutely nothing.It's right up there with "what's the point with trying to get Asian fans to attend games, they all like cricket anyway, they hate football".
Quote from: Isa on September 20, 2013, 05:24:47 PMAgree with most of that supertom. Other, then some chants from away fans at Brighton, is there really anything else truely homophobic in the English game? The barometer I guess will be (if ever) when a player openly comes out.I mean to some extent you'll always get a few fans in the stands calling players "poofs" or whatever, but it's not that common. And honestly, as footy fans, when we're pissed off we can use far more colourful language that that. Obviously though, if you cant take a bit of risque, potentially offensive language then you've got no place being at a football ground, because I don't care where you are, you'll hear something. Obviously there are certain things truly unacceptable, like racist chants but that's thankfully a rarity in the English game now.I know two gay guys and seriously, you couldn't pay them a million quid to watch a football match, even if Beckham played the entire match in nothing but his budgie smugglers. They'd rather go shopping. That said...if we play like we did against Newcastle again, I might have to join them!
Agree with most of that supertom. Other, then some chants from away fans at Brighton, is there really anything else truely homophobic in the English game? The barometer I guess will be (if ever) when a player openly comes out.
Could there be a case too that perhaps some people who aren't gay get more offended by this than people who actually are? I mean we Brits we do relish the opportunity to complain about things which are offensive, or make an issue of it.
What the hell does Homophobia in football have to do with Paddy Power? I'm sorry, it strikes me as a bit of publicity stunt.
Quote from: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on September 20, 2013, 08:08:29 PMWhat the hell does Homophobia in football have to do with Paddy Power? I'm sorry, it strikes me as a bit of publicity stunt. But it shouldn't be ignored just because Paddy Power is involved. Stonewall are also involved and they are a fantastic organisation. I'd hate to think the Power link gives a convenient excuse for haters to ignore this. (I'm not suggesting you are of course).