Negativity

[Clampy]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, it would appear so.

[saunders_heroes]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

[Chris Smith]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

Does anyone with a brain take notice of the table after 4 games? There have been sides get relegated who were in the top 4 at this stage. Everton under Moyes regularly started poorly yet generally pulled it round in the second half of the season.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

[Legion]

I prefer to wait until about 10 games in before I make any serious judgements.

[olaftab]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, it would appear so.

I will now reform myself in-line with this and develop a selective critical view in future. Clearly that will make me happy.

[saunders_heroes]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

Does anyone with a brain take notice of the table after 4 games? There have been sides get relegated who were in the top 4 at this stage. Everton under Moyes regularly started poorly yet generally pulled it round in the second half of the season.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

I'm sure you'd notice it if we were at the top rather than the bottom. And for the record I'm not calling for Lambert's head (yet), but we can't just gloss over the fact that the Newcastle game isn't just a one off. Last season was littered with performances like it, so don't be surprised when people are a tad worried by it.

[Clampy]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

I would say two very good perfomances, one reasonable and a poor one.

It's much too early for the wailing, gnashing of teeth and predictions of struggles ahead just because Newcastle scored one more goal than us

[Chris Smith]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

Does anyone with a brain take notice of the table after 4 games? There have been sides get relegated who were in the top 4 at this stage. Everton under Moyes regularly started poorly yet generally pulled it round in the second half of the season.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

I'm sure you'd notice it if we were at the top rather than the bottom. And for the record I'm not calling for Lambert's head (yet), but we can't just gloss over the fact that the Newcastle game isn't just a one off. Last season was littered with performances like it, so don't be surprised when people are a tad worried by it.

What gives you the impression that I'm in the least bit surprised?

[Ads]

I will ignore the league table for another few weeks. I also wont pay attention to last seasons as it has no bearing on how well we may or may not do.

[saunders_heroes]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

Does anyone with a brain take notice of the table after 4 games? There have been sides get relegated who were in the top 4 at this stage. Everton under Moyes regularly started poorly yet generally pulled it round in the second half of the season.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

I'm sure you'd notice it if we were at the top rather than the bottom. And for the record I'm not calling for Lambert's head (yet), but we can't just gloss over the fact that the Newcastle game isn't just a one off. Last season was littered with performances like it, so don't be surprised when people are a tad worried by it.

What gives you the impression that I'm in the least bit surprised?

I didn't say you were.

[Chris Smith]

Just so we're clear, only the matches where we play poorly count. Ignore the ones where we swat a top four side and we cheated out of at least a point at the Champions elect.

Yes, and to be even more clear, let's ignore the league table as well, and the one last season too. Just for a balanced argument I mean.

Does anyone with a brain take notice of the table after 4 games? There have been sides get relegated who were in the top 4 at this stage. Everton under Moyes regularly started poorly yet generally pulled it round in the second half of the season.

We've had one very good performance, two reasonable performances and one well below par. I've no idea of how we'll get on this season and am distrustful of anyone, not intimately connected with the club, who claims that they do. 

I'm sure you'd notice it if we were at the top rather than the bottom. And for the record I'm not calling for Lambert's head (yet), but we can't just gloss over the fact that the Newcastle game isn't just a one off. Last season was littered with performances like it, so don't be surprised when people are a tad worried by it.

What gives you the impression that I'm in the least bit surprised?

I didn't say you were.

In a post that directly responds to mine and uses the phrase "don't be surprised" it's not a wild conclusion to reach.

Anyway, that's getting away from the substantive point that it's far too soon to pass any meaningful judgement.

[Irish villain]

Are others not worried that we seem to be incapable of grinding out draws? That's what worries me. We play well and take moral victories against Chelsea and Liverpool but no points. It was similar last year. The only draws we tended to get were ones where we had surrendered a winning position.

Good performances or not we still got no points from Chelsea and Liverpool and then played crap against Newcastle.

If it continues like that all season, even when we play well, we can't be sure we won't end up losing. Where's our resilience?

[taylorsworkrate]

Let's put things into perspective please.

6 wins in 34 home games

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

We won ONE more home game last season under Lambert than we did the year before under McLeish. Fact.
whilst I like Lambert and the way he has us going forwards he needs to address the lack of home form.

[taylorsworkrate]

Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

By that logic, i'd only listen to bands that professional musicians have recommended to me