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Offline LeeB

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2013, 04:45:26 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

The greatest captain this club has ever had once said to me that the trouble with modern football is that it's too easy for supporters to have their say. This was before blogs and social media so I don't think he was right then, but he's absolutely correct now. 

I take it you are referring to Dennis Mortimer whose comments surprise me - the fans contribute a lot towards the club and are entitled to have their say .

Yes, but 'having your say' is one thing, but proclaiming that your (not you in particular mate) narrow vision is 'fact' is actually generally happens.

For example, I think he should be playing Sylla instead of El Ahmadi. But I don't see them train all day, and I haven't studied the game and modern techniques as much as Lambert and his coaches, and I'll bet if they discussed it with me it would take them all of 5 minutes to convince me they're right on based on the information they have.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2013, 04:46:24 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2013, 04:48:41 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

Depends what the advice was.

Offline Ads

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2013, 04:48:50 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

The idea that just because we have this platform known as the interweb from which we can spout all sorts of shite, somehow makes us authorities on anything we dip our beak into and our words should be listened to as if we were sages of our age is laughable. Just look at all the wannabe journos on Twitter.

That bloke with the blog is entitled to his opinion, but he is talking utter, utter shite.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2013, 04:51:40 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

Depends what the advice was.

"Don't drive down the Villa, you'll only be disappointed"

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #80 on: September 17, 2013, 04:52:30 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

Depends what the advice was.

"Don't drive down the Villa, you'll only be disappointed"

And like a prat, I'd ignore that.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #81 on: September 17, 2013, 04:55:31 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

Depends what the advice was.

"Don't drive down the Villa, you'll only be disappointed"

And like a prat, I'd ignore that.

:)

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #82 on: September 17, 2013, 04:57:27 PM »

The idea that just because we have this platform known as the interweb from which we can spout all sorts of shite, somehow makes us authorities on anything we dip our beak into and our words should be listened to as if we were sages of our age is laughable. Just look at all the wannabe journos on Twitter.

That bloke with the blog is entitled to his opinion, but he is talking utter, utter shite.

Aye. One thing I notice with blogs that you don't have/didn't get with fanzines is that the writers style themselves as journalists and claim to be better and know more than those who've been doing it full-time for a living for decades even though only a fraction of them have ever written for anyone else except themselves on their specialist subject.

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #83 on: September 17, 2013, 05:04:11 PM »
I like the fact that he was trying to compare McLeish with Lambert. That said it all really.

Offline eastie

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #84 on: September 17, 2013, 05:04:36 PM »

The idea that just because we have this platform known as the interweb from which we can spout all sorts of shite, somehow makes us authorities on anything we dip our beak into and our words should be listened to as if we were sages of our age is laughable. Just look at all the wannabe journos on Twitter.

That bloke with the blog is entitled to his opinion, but he is talking utter, utter shite.

Aye. One thing I notice with blogs that you don't have/didn't get with fanzines is that the writers style themselves as journalists and claim to be better and know more than those who've been doing it full-time for a living for decades even though only a fraction of them have ever written for anyone else except themselves on their specialist subject.

There are good and bad i suppose , Oliver holt has been a journalist for decades and i daresay a virgin blogger may make more sense than him :)

Offline Monty

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #85 on: September 17, 2013, 05:08:13 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

To be fair, Jose Mourinho and Arrigo Sacchi never played the game professionally, to name but two (and there are surprisingly loads). And plenty of ex-players, indeed great players, talk nothing but shite about the game whenever given the chance. Maradona was hardly a great manager, and Pele talks exclusively nonsense, and this isn't even to mention Shearer.

Offline not3bad

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #86 on: September 17, 2013, 05:11:04 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

The idea that just because we have this platform known as the interweb from which we can spout all sorts of shite, somehow makes us authorities on anything we dip our beak into and our words should be listened to as if we were sages of our age is laughable. Just look at all the wannabe journos on Twitter.

That bloke with the blog is entitled to his opinion, but he is talking utter, utter shite.

To be fair to the bloke with the blog - he didn't say this, it was one of the responses to his blog.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #87 on: September 17, 2013, 05:28:57 PM »
Best bit of negativity I've seen today:

http://www.astonvillalife.com/aston-villa-blog/is-it-time-to-protest-yet/?

[see responses to the blog]

"Of course Lambert sees what everyone else sees but he hasn’t the wit or talent to do anything about it. Norwich were statistically the team that hit the most long balls when Lambert was manager there, he’s now playing the same way at VP, he can’t recognise that things have moved on from when he played in the 70′s and 80′s just like McKnob couldn’t, he’s not a modern manager who can adapt his tactics. The comparisons with ginger are easy, both have limited ( one ) way of playing, neither can take criticism, both have very little talent and hopefully, very soon, both will be able to say that their EX managers of Aston Villa."

That's the beauty about football, it's all about opinions.

And the opinion of some bell-end that's never kicked a ball in his life is utterly fucking irrelevant.

He may well be a "bell-end" but his comments shouldn't just be ignored because he hasn't kicked a ball in his life before.

Yes, they should.

Would you take advice on how to drive a car from someone without a license?

To be fair, Jose Mourinho and Arrigo Sacchi never played the game professionally, to name but two (and there are surprisingly loads). And plenty of ex-players, indeed great players, talk nothing but shite about the game whenever given the chance. Maradona was hardly a great manager, and Pele talks exclusively nonsense, and this isn't even to mention Shearer.

To be fair, I never mentioned anything about playing the game professionally, and that isn't the point I'm making.

You're entirely correct about the likes of Saachi and Mourinho. But those guys dedicated themselves professionally to the business of understanding the sport, not talking about it around the water cooler on a Monday.

Offline Monty

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #88 on: September 17, 2013, 05:35:27 PM »
To be fair, I never mentioned anything about playing the game professionally, and that isn't the point I'm making.

You're entirely correct about the likes of Saachi and Mourinho. But those guys dedicated themselves professionally to the business of understanding the sport, not talking about it around the water cooler on a Monday.

I see, so you mean that his opinions probably have very little validity because he's no more than a slightly over-enthusiastic amateur? That seems about right.

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Re: Negativity
« Reply #89 on: September 17, 2013, 05:41:30 PM »
Anyone can have a valid and good opinion on football, watch as many games of football as most fans have by the time they are 30 plus and they know a good player from a bad one. The more intelligent ones can have some quite insightful opinions on the game.

Then there are those who have played top level, and don't have a clue. Cascarino, Cundy, Shearer, Lawro etc... who I would not take the opinion of in a million years.

 


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