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Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1020 on: February 11, 2015, 03:53:25 PM »
Bent at the very least should be sat on our bench rather than banging in goals for derby.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1021 on: February 11, 2015, 07:40:08 PM »
Bent at the very least should be sat on our bench rather than banging in goals for derby.

Whilst I tend to agree, you could also argue 'what's the point'? We don't create anything.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1022 on: February 12, 2015, 01:30:28 PM »
People are forgetting how unbelievably bad Bent was at Fulham. It's not just us - it's that he's done at the top level. Completely done.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1023 on: February 12, 2015, 02:09:01 PM »
People are forgetting how unbelievably bad Bent was at Fulham. It's not just us - it's that he's done at the top level. Completely done.

He scored 6 goals in 14 games for Fulham. Not what I'd call bad. He's scoring for Derby regularly now, as he has wherever he has played. Now remind me , how many goals have we scored this season.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1024 on: February 12, 2015, 02:11:03 PM »
Actually he scored 3 in 24 games for Fulham.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1025 on: February 12, 2015, 02:15:42 PM »
His record in all competitions for Fulham was 6 in 30, and as Monty says, 3 in 24 in the league, 13 appearances as sub.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1026 on: February 12, 2015, 03:11:28 PM »
Bent at the very least should be sat on our bench rather than banging in goals for derby.

It would appear that the point is moot.

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Offline Damo70

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1027 on: February 12, 2015, 06:15:21 PM »
People are forgetting how unbelievably bad Bent was at Fulham. It's not just us - it's that he's done at the top level. Completely done.

People also forget that whilst on face value he might appear to be a good option on the bench, he doesn't tend to get into a game when coming on as a sub.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1028 on: February 12, 2015, 06:34:19 PM »
McClaren has ended the discussion as to whether Bent can be recalled or not. I'm curious as to what the rules are on this though. Could we have had a clause in the loan deal that allowed us to recall him? We are his parent club after all so its not like buying a new player outside of the transfer window. If such a clause is allowed, we didn't cover all scenarios.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1029 on: February 12, 2015, 07:50:42 PM »
Let's not get get all dewy eyed about Bent just because he has banged a few in for a team that is one of the best in that League.
1. we don't dominate in the last third.
2. Bent in not an impact player.
3. Bent has to carried in the team till that chance falls  to his feet.
3. It has been proven at number of clubs in the last 2/3 seasons that he is a luxury player and not scored enough goals till he got to Derby.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1030 on: February 12, 2015, 10:00:26 PM »




Amazing the transformation in Ince and Bent in a few weeks under a good coach.

The player out of that highlight reel we should be looking at is Callum Wilson.

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1031 on: February 12, 2015, 10:04:01 PM »
Bent thrives on good service. It wasn't his fault that Young and Downing were sold which effectively cut off his supply line. Lambert ruined him by banishing him to the bomb squad and stripping him of the captaincy. Not exactly good man management. Stupid that we can't recall him - about par for yhe course from the club's decision makers.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1032 on: February 12, 2015, 10:06:49 PM »
We've got good attacking players. Anyone half decent at getting the best out of them will have us scoring and creating more. We could have used someone like Bent to be honest. He's a poacher. I don't think his fitness was great at Fulham, in part down to him having to train with kids in pre-season, and his injury niggles, but I'd sooner have him on our bench than Gabby or Wiemann right now.
Put it where Bent wants it and he'll score, as he's showing at Derby. Defences aren't much better in the top flight either to be honest. I don't think it's that he's having it necessarily easier by any stretch.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1033 on: February 13, 2015, 08:20:42 AM »
Stupid that we can't recall him - about par for yhe course from the club's decision makers.
Not really, those are the FA rules. Short term loans (anything up to 28 days) can include a recall clause if both clubs agree to it. Anything longer than that is fixed for the time agreed.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #1034 on: February 13, 2015, 01:17:42 PM »
Stupid that we can't recall him - about par for yhe course from the club's decision makers.
Not really, those are the FA rules. Short term loans (anything up to 28 days) can include a recall clause if both clubs agree to it. Anything longer than that is fixed for the time agreed.

But still subject to be broken on agreement from both parties (same as any contract).  Robinson for example we recalled early despite the contract being longer.

 


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