Villa player loan watch

[dave.woodhall]

With any luck he'll be a factor for us in the second half of the season.

He'd struggle to be as ineffective as Westwood and Cleverley to be fair to him, and would at least offer something a little different.
That said I don't think he'll make it at this level now. Too many important years lost to injury which is a damn shame.
He's better off staying there as long as possible too, if he comes back here he's likely to play 2 minutes and then end up injured again.

Fabian Delph was much the same at a similar age three years ago.

[Karlos96]

Yesterday and today's updates:

Bolton beat Wigan 3-1 Herd never played not on the bench.

Steer played the whole game in Yeovil's 1-0 win against Crawley.
Donacien played the whole game in Tranmere's 1-0 win against Bristol Rovers.
Bennett and Gardner played the whole game in Brighton's 1-1 with Blackburn.  Gardner scored Brighton's goal
 

[OCD]

Re: Gardner - it seems that for a Cruciate injury that it takes 2 years to recover from. 1 to recovery physically and another to get back to the sort of level needed for professional football. Delph is the best example for us because we've seen it first hand and it's looking like it will be the same with Okore and Gardner too. Gardner was getting terrible reviews but it sounds like he's had a good couple of games and things might be changing for him. I don't understand why we haven't loaned Okore out but maybe that's just because we don't have the information the club has.

[supertom]

With any luck he'll be a factor for us in the second half of the season.

He'd struggle to be as ineffective as Westwood and Cleverley to be fair to him, and would at least offer something a little different.
That said I don't think he'll make it at this level now. Too many important years lost to injury which is a damn shame.
He's better off staying there as long as possible too, if he comes back here he's likely to play 2 minutes and then end up injured again.

Fabian Delph was much the same at a similar age three years ago.

Delph at least had the benefit of 50 odd games for Leeds before joining us. He's also incredibly lucky the way things have worked out. Ordinarily you don't get so much patience afforded in the top level.

I hope Gary comes good. So much was expected of him. But not getting much game time around 18-21, really key development time has held him back.

[passitsideways]

Just let the lad play every week in the Championship (hopefully, though Brighton fans don't seem that keen on him) for the rest of the season, whether that be south or somewhere else after January. No point having him sit on the bench (as I have no doubt he will if he's back) watching our annual relegation battle.

[Matt Collins]

Yeah he looks like he's improving from a lacklustre start. That suggests he should stay exactly where he is. He's missed so much football.

[Handsworth Wood Villa]

[Dave]

Great header from Gestede for Blackburn's equaliser.

[SoccerHQ]

Re: Gardner - it seems that for a Cruciate injury that it takes 2 years to recover from. 1 to recovery physically and another to get back to the sort of level needed for professional football. Delph is the best example for us because we've seen it first hand and it's looking like it will be the same with Okore and Gardner too. Gardner was getting terrible reviews but it sounds like he's had a good couple of games and things might be changing for him. I don't understand why we haven't loaned Okore out but maybe that's just because we don't have the information the club has.

Gardner's had two in his career so I still think it will be a massive struggle for him to establish himself at the top level.

He's a decent player though as he's showing at Brighton.

[Dante Lavelli]

Didn't he sign a new deal recently?  If so, let him have a whole season there.  I'd bet he's enjoying playing regularly and hopefully improving.  Sitting on our bench will serve no purpose especially as be sat there with Sanchez/Bacuna.  We need to get the balance right between having cover on the bench and also ensuring that players are fully involved and engaged.  I fear the three of them sitting on the bench would result in at least one losing commitment and ultimately not fulfilling their potential.

[Karlos96]

Today's updates:

Helenius come on in the 81st minute in Aalborg's 2-0 win against Vestsjaelland.
Chesterfield won 6-0 away at Braintree, Johnson didn't play not on the bench.
Verona drew 2-2 away at Inter Luna was on the bench again never got on.
Sylla played the whole game for Erciyesspor in their 1-1 with Bursaspor.

[OCD]

Re: Gardner - it seems that for a Cruciate injury that it takes 2 years to recover from. 1 to recovery physically and another to get back to the sort of level needed for professional football. Delph is the best example for us because we've seen it first hand and it's looking like it will be the same with Okore and Gardner too. Gardner was getting terrible reviews but it sounds like he's had a good couple of games and things might be changing for him. I don't understand why we haven't loaned Okore out but maybe that's just because we don't have the information the club has.

Gardner's had two in his career so I still think it will be a massive struggle for him to establish himself at the top level.

He's a decent player though as he's showing at Brighton.

It will be difficult for him but some comments make it sound as though it's something that can't be done. Difficult isn't the same as can't be done, that's all I mean. 

[adrenachrome]

BBC Sport

Oldham Athletic sign Aston Villa midfielder Daniel Johnson

Oldham Athletic have signed Aston Villa midfielder Daniel Johnson on loan until 5 January.

The 22-year-old had recently returned to the Premier League side after a three-month loan spell with the Latics' League One rivals Chesterfield.

The Jamaica-born midfielder, who has yet to make his competitive debut for Villa, played 13 times for the Spireites.

He could make his bow for the Latics in Saturday's home match against Crawley.

[Legion]

Callum Robinson scores for PNE.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Callum Robinson scores for PNE.

Twice.