Villa player loan watch

[paul_e]

Let's wait and see how things look by Christmas before writing him off, if he can stay fit and force his way into the starting line-up we'll start to see what he can become.

[Karlos96]

Herd played the whole game for Bolton in their 4-0 defeat away at Fulham, he was booked.  The site where I checked the result suggest he played the game at right back.

[ozzjim]

Gardner seems to have picked up in the last 2-3 games for Brighton. Lets not forget how long match fitness and sharpness will take. Give him time. Hypia seems to be a decent manager to learn from too.

[Karlos96]

Tonight's updates:

Helenius played 78 minutes for Aalborg in their 1-0 win against Rio Ave.  Helenius scored the goal
Tonev played 88 minutes for Celtic in their 1-0 win against Dinamo Zagreb.

[Matt Collins]

Gardner seems to have picked up in the last 2-3 games for Brighton. Lets not forget how long match fitness and sharpness will take. Give him time. Hypia seems to be a decent manager to learn from too.

Yes. I'd give him several months before taking a view. It's not just fitness, it's a huge amount of development time he's missed

[paul_e]

Tonight's updates:

Helenius played 78 minutes for Aalborg in their 1-0 win against Rio Ave.  Helenius scored the goal
Tonev played 88 minutes for Celtic in their 1-0 win against Dinamo Zagreb.

Good on you gladiator, I really hope he kicks on and shows his ability again, I'm not ready to give up on him, looked a very good player in the bits and pieces we saw.

[Dante Lavelli]

Tonight's updates:

Helenius played 78 minutes for Aalborg in their 1-0 win against Rio Ave.  Helenius scored the goal
Tonev played 88 minutes for Celtic in their 1-0 win against Dinamo Zagreb.

Good on you gladiator, I really hope he kicks on and shows his ability again, I'm not ready to give up on him, looked a very good player in the bits and pieces we saw.

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but I read he had some off field issues, maybe a virus, which knocked him out for most of last season.

[PeterWithesShin]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but I read he had some off field issues, maybe a virus, which knocked him out for most of last season.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=49933.570

[Ian.]

Tonight's updates:

Helenius played 78 minutes for Aalborg in their 1-0 win against Rio Ave.  Helenius scored the goal
Tonev played 88 minutes for Celtic in their 1-0 win against Dinamo Zagreb.

Good on you gladiator, I really hope he kicks on and shows his ability again, I'm not ready to give up on him, looked a very good player in the bits and pieces we saw.

Excellent news. Good on him, I'd love to see him back one day and prove himself.

[WarszaVillan]

Gardner seems to have picked up in the last 2-3 games for Brighton. Lets not forget how long match fitness and sharpness will take. Give him time. Hypia seems to be a decent manager to learn from too.

Yes. I'd give him several months before taking a view. It's not just fitness, it's a huge amount of development time he's missed

Brighton fans seem to be liking Gardner and Bennett: http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?310066-Bennett-and-Gardner&highlight=gary+gardner

[paul_e]

Good to see, it looks like, as I suspected, Gardner has had a bit of a slow start but hopefully he'll step things up over the next few months.  He's got ability but he really needs a run of games (and fitness) to see if it's enough to be the player we thought was coming when he was 16.

Their comments on Bennett mirror my opinion of him, good going forward and has some real quality but can be suspect defensively.  I still think he'll end up playing at premier league level as a left winger, he's got the work rate, crossing and technique for it and without the confidence draining defensive howlers he might start believing in himself more.

[eamonn]

Well, quite. A lot already condemning Gardner to lower-league wasteland when in truth, he's still gearing-up to playing at a competitive high level consistently for the first time in his career.

Gardner pinged what was probably the best long pass i have witnessed last night.He also had a few other beauties as well.Absolute class.

More please and thank you.

[JD]

Good to read the comments, especially about Gary Gardner. It's going to take him a few months of playing to get back up to speed, but if he does we could (fingers crossed), have one hell of a player.       

[Karlos96]

Today's updates:

Steer played the whole game in Doncaster's 2-1 win away at Scunthorpe.
Donacien played the game in Tranmere's 2-0 defeat away at Bury.
Verona won 1-0 against Cagliarli - Luna was on the bench never got on.
Gardner and Bennett played the whole game for Brighton in their 1-1 away at Watford.  Gardner was booked.
Sylla played for 71 minutes in Erciyesspor's 2-1 defeat against Galatasaray.
Johnson played the whole game in Chesterfield's 3-2 win against Sheffield United.
Herd played the whole game for Bolton in their 2-1 defeat against Bournemouth, he was booked.
Drennan played 69 minutes in Portsmouth's 0-0 away at York City.
Robinson came on in the 68th minute in Preston's 4-2 win against Colchester.

[eamonn]

That's the quantitative data, anyone got the qualitative?