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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #375 on: February 18, 2014, 11:33:49 AM »
Carruthers has definitely got the ability. Whether he has the mentality and work ethic for the highest level is another matter. He fell foul of Lambert very early on, and it never seems to take long, or much for Lambert to make his mind up on a player. I noticed in pre-season with Carruthers that he carried himself on the pitch a little like Bellamy. Very niggly, moaned a lot, could lose his head a little at times and show a lot of frustration to team mates. Obviously with an aggressive player you don't want to curb that fire too much, but at the same time he needs to channel it in the right way. Hopefully his time at the Don's just grounds him a bit and will inspire him to knuckle down more when he's back here. He runs the risk of following in the path of Stefan and Delfouneso etc.
He does have a bit of unpredictability that could be useful for us. I'm hoping he has a very good pre-season.

Not having a go at you specifically, but this thing about Lambert not rating our youngsters etc comes up a lot.

If he's already made his mind up on Carruthers and doesn't want him, why did Lambert give him a new contract last summer?

I didn't think he meant in terms of not rating young players, just any player who Lambert has a problem with (more so off the field) deserved or not doesn't often get an opportunity to make ammends.


That is what I meant. I mean sometimes a player with Lambert has their card marked and they have to do a lot to reverse that. He clearly sees talent in Carruthers, but it would seem that the lad has to really up his game in order to force his way back. Again, going back to the pre-season games, Carruthers never really stood out unfortunately. At least not for the right reasons.

Conversely it also seems like Lowton has fallen foul of Lambert and is no longer on the favourites list. He's got to really do something special to pull his Villa career back on track. As we've seen previously, Lambert makes his mind up pretty sharpish and can be pretty stern in his stance. Reputations mean little either, as Bent found out.

I hope Carruthers gets another shot. The talent is there, he just needs the attitude and application to go with it.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #376 on: February 18, 2014, 05:28:36 PM »
Carruthers used his phone at the training ground, right? Can someone tell me what he's done to make Lambert dislike him?

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #377 on: February 18, 2014, 05:43:13 PM »
His ringtone was the theme from Benny Hill.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #378 on: February 18, 2014, 10:25:55 PM »
Carruthers used his phone at the training ground, right? Can someone tell me what he's done to make Lambert dislike him?
That was essentially it. Lambert came in, set his intentions very quickly, and Carruthers got on the wrong side very early. Harsh of course. There's been other passing suggestions that Carruthers could apply himself a bit better, similar to Bannan, but that's hearsay.
I guess we'll see what happens in pre-season. If Carruthers doesn't break the first team next season then time is running out to do so. Sounds funny saying that about a lad who'll be 21 in April.
But yeah last pre-season he didn't have enough of an impact in the games he played. Too much letting his gob do the talking and not his feet.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #379 on: February 18, 2014, 10:33:56 PM »
Although you could equally argue that by virtue of the fact that he is out on loan getting experience that Lambert rates him and the other loanees as the closest to being ready for the first team.  Not sure why, probably due to their age and previous experience, but I see bent, given and the fonz as being jettisoned whereas Grelish and Carruthers are being groomed for the first team.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #380 on: February 18, 2014, 10:42:07 PM »
Although you could equally argue that by virtue of the fact that he is out on loan getting experience that Lambert rates him and the other loanees as the closest to being ready for the first team.  Not sure why, probably due to their age and previous experience, but I see bent, given and the fonz as being jettisoned whereas Grelish and Carruthers are being groomed for the first team.
Hopefully. Pre-season will be interesting and the first months. You'd naturally assume the two lads will get sent to the championship next season to take another step to the top level.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #381 on: February 19, 2014, 12:21:09 PM »
Although you could equally argue that by virtue of the fact that he is out on loan getting experience that Lambert rates him and the other loanees as the closest to being ready for the first team.  Not sure why, probably due to their age and previous experience, but I see bent, given and the fonz as being jettisoned whereas Grelish and Carruthers are being groomed for the first team.

I agree completely with this, the loans of most of the youngsters seem to be about getting them gametime at a competitive level.  Looking at the signings he's made they've all got a lot of games under their belts at a lower level, he's trying to get our own kids that same experience, but you'd hope that they will have the extra bit of quality (which led to them being premier league academy players) to add to it.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #382 on: February 19, 2014, 03:18:08 PM »
From what I've read Carruthers has been pretty inconsistent at MK Dons, he started the season well and dropped off a little, and now he's coming back into form.  Also he was apparently just as bad in the first half at the weekend as he was good in the second.

Fuck me, he'd slot right into our first team then.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #383 on: February 20, 2014, 01:53:37 PM »
MKWEB

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Football: Aston Villa winger sent for scan on knee injury

Samir Carruthers will undergo a scan after picking up a knee injury in the 0-0 draw with Preston on Tuesday night.

The Dons winger - on loan from Aston Villa - was replaced by George Baldock after just 12 minutes of the stalemate.

After the scan the full extent of the Republic of Ireland U21 international’s injury will be revealed.


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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #384 on: February 22, 2014, 12:56:30 PM »

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #385 on: February 22, 2014, 04:42:16 PM »
Grealish on target for County again today.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #386 on: February 22, 2014, 04:46:37 PM »
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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #387 on: February 22, 2014, 04:59:04 PM »
Drennan scored on his debut too.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #388 on: February 22, 2014, 05:00:42 PM »
GG played the full 90 today in a 2-0 away win.
Jonathan Hogg played against him and apparently played well.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #389 on: February 22, 2014, 06:00:56 PM »
Drennan scored on his debut too.

In a 5-1 battering, though to be fair he was a second half sub, and they were already 3-0 down.

 


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