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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #255 on: January 12, 2014, 01:06:47 PM »
So true. At 18 if they think they are destined for the first team they should be on 12 month loans getting first team football somewhere. It is the only way they get proper match experience.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #256 on: January 12, 2014, 01:29:01 PM »
Our use of the loan system under MON was atrocious.

Looking back at 09/10, Fonz, Clark, Bannan, Albrighton, none of them went out on loan at all during the season which was ridiculous when you think we actually went out of Europe very earlier that season.

MON was clueless in a number of areas. Youth development being one of them.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #257 on: January 12, 2014, 01:30:25 PM »
Grealish has a long way to go, but he has that thing about him where he appears to have more time on the ball than anyone else. Of course that's at League One level, but it's not a bad start.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #258 on: January 12, 2014, 03:04:03 PM »
Grealish has a long way to go, but he has that thing about him where he appears to have more time on the ball than anyone else. Of course that's at League One level, but it's not a bad start.

This is why I'm excited about him, he has all the time he wants and if people try to rush him he drifts away effortlessly.  He does have a long way to go but those 2 things mean he's got a better chance than most.  Looking at the way he plays and reading comments from coaches, etc I think he's got the right attitude as well.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #259 on: January 12, 2014, 03:25:03 PM »
This:
Notts County 2 Sheffield United 1: Man of the match? Jack Grealish
Posted on Saturday, January 11th, 2014 in National and International Sport, Sports, Sports News.
Meadow Lane was absolutely bouncing today as Notts County came from behind to beat relegation threatened rivals Sheffield United 2-1 today.

A wonderful team performance left Shaun Derry beaming, and with two home wins on the bounce and seemingly a very strong bond in the changing room, there are very few negatives around at County right now.

However, as good a team performance as it was, one man stood out for Notts – as he has so often this season – gliding forward whenever he had the ball, bringing his side with him, continually making the right decisions on the ball, spreading the play, coming inside off his wing and popping up all over the place: Jack Grealish.

And here we stumble upon one of the only negatives rolling round Meadow Lane tonight, as today could be his last game for the club.

On loan from Aston Villa, his contract with Notts runs out on Monday and as yet, hasn’t been extended.

Grealish himself has said he’d like to stay, and manager Shaun Derry has made it abundantly clear that he wants to keep the 18-year-old winger, but Aston Villa have yet to play their hand and there’s talk that he may move on to a club a little higher in League One, or even up to the Championship.

“Jack has to go back to Villa on Monday to discuss his short term future, but long term he’ll be playing for Aston Villa, that’s for sure,” said Derry after the game, who is clearly a huge fan of the youngster.

“He’s got numerous options but next season Jack’s got the ability to play for Villa and let’s hope here at Notts County we can help him on his way.”

If Derry can indeed keep hold of the stylish winger, it’ll help his quest to keep County up no end.

Jamal Campbell-Ryce, playing on the opposite wing to Grealish today, was exceptional too, setting up Enoch Showunmi’s equalising goal and terrorising the Sheffield United defence in the first half.

But he quietened down a little in the second period, whilst Grealish remained prominent throughout, picking up the ball all across the line and generally always beating a man before picking out the right pass.

County’s winning goal was set up by Alan Sheehan, who whipped in a delicious ball from left back, but it was Grealish, breaking through the centre, who played the defender in initially.

Then, in the last two minutes with his side hanging on for victory, Grealish found himself on the halfway line surrounded by three defenders but somehow he glided through – and he really does glide, covering the ground with an admirable elegance – made his way down the line and won a corner to take the pressure off his own defence.

It was a wonderfully mature display from a very young footballer, a footballer who is clearly destined for bigger and better things – but let’s just hope he sticks around at Notts for a little while longer yet.

George Solomon

- See more at: http://platform-online.net/2014/01/notts-county-2-sheffield-united-1-man-of-the-match-jack-grealish/#sthash.4RfrjzRQ.dpuf

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #260 on: January 12, 2014, 03:33:44 PM »
Well-written piece by Solomon, and I have to say my excitement about this kid grows every match.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #261 on: January 12, 2014, 04:08:32 PM »
Grealish has a long way to go, but he has that thing about him where he appears to have more time on the ball than anyone else. Of course that's at League One level, but it's not a bad start.

Agreed. In the same way that Chris Waddle made more time on the ball than you thought he had.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #262 on: January 12, 2014, 04:11:59 PM »
Grealish has a long way to go, but he has that thing about him where he appears to have more time on the ball than anyone else. Of course that's at League One level, but it's not a bad start.

Agreed. In the same way that Chris Waddle made more time on the ball than you thought he had.

All great sportsmen are the ones who look like they have the most time at the highest level. Federer, for instance, or Sachin Tendulkar at his best, seem to have more time than anyone else.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #263 on: January 12, 2014, 06:22:50 PM »
The comments about him finding time on the ball and making the right decisions are both very encouraging to be fair.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #264 on: January 12, 2014, 06:27:41 PM »
I think the difference with Jack and other academy prospects is that he is out there doing it against men and proving himself on a competitive stage. It's all very good standing out against players your own age but he is clearly showing that he has the ability and the temperament for the professional game at a very young age. I'm really excited about this one, I hope he can be the gem in the crown.

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« Reply #265 on: January 12, 2014, 06:30:07 PM »
I think the difference with Jack and other academy prospects is that he is out there doing it against men and proving himself on a competitive stage. It's all very good standing out against players your own age but he is clearly showing that he has the ability and the temperament for the professional game at a very young age. I'm really excited about this one, I hope he can be the gem in the crown.

Exactly. And in the lower leagues there's no protection for skillful players against the wardrobe-sized monsters who batter them mercilessly and without punishment. Grealish is getting a very good training in looking after himself.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #266 on: January 12, 2014, 06:43:05 PM »
I think leaving Grealish out on loan for the season is a good idea. I'd have no problem with bringing Caruthers back though, he's had a sniff of the first team already and he'd be another useful option off the bench.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #267 on: January 12, 2014, 06:53:02 PM »
Grealish should stay at Notts County for the remainder of the season, where he is getting game time and becoming a vital player in their set up. Next season he should be loaned to a Championship team provided he is guaranteed a decent amount of game time. Then in 2015 he will be ready to challenge for a first team spot at VP.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #268 on: January 12, 2014, 07:07:43 PM »
Appears we've recalled him just to play in a youth cup tie this week!

Apologies for anyone who's going to that game but I couldn't give a stuff about that or if we never win another youth tournament. We've seen from the past 5-6 years that winning regularly at that level doesn't produce premier league winners. I'd much rather the promising ones were all out on loan particularly as the next gen tournament which was decent has been scrapped.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #269 on: January 12, 2014, 09:33:10 PM »
I was surprised he didn't play against Plymouth in the last round. Clubs rarely loan out U18 players. Just about Every England International will have played for their club in the FA Youth Cup. We won it with a team containing Little, Gidman and Bobby McDonald.  We beat Liverpool in the final who had Phil Thompson playing and Birmingham in the Semi who fielded Trevor Francis, Kenny Burns and Joe Gallagher.

Gordan Cowans, Gary Shaw, Mark Walters, Gabby etc all played in it.  Our last team that won the Cup beat an Everton team including Wayne Rooney in the final.  I watched the Villa play Utd at Bodymore last season in a youth league game and they had Janusaj playing so I am sure he played in their FA Youth Cup Team.

The Youth Cup has a history and is one of the few times that U18 players get to play on the Main Ground with a bit of a crowd there.
For any pro it is important and it is something you remember and there is a different pressure to other youth games.

It is too easy to say Loan out all the players. It doesn't work like that.  The whole point of the Youth Team is to provide players for the first team. Do you think Tony McAndrew isn't aware of that ?

 


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