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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #225 on: January 07, 2014, 03:37:27 AM »
How's Samir doing at MK Dons? I've not heard anythinh about him since he got married to Deirdre and was attacked by those BNP blokes in a dark alleyway.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #226 on: January 07, 2014, 10:52:18 AM »
Grealish staying at Notts County until the end of the season!

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #227 on: January 07, 2014, 12:06:36 PM »
Jack Grealish wins Notts County Goal of the Month for December -

http://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/article/jack-voted-gotm-1279763.aspx?

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #228 on: January 07, 2014, 03:22:04 PM »

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #229 on: January 08, 2014, 04:29:32 PM »
Samir Carruthers extends his loan at MK Dons:

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3608235,00.html?

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #230 on: January 10, 2014, 09:42:35 AM »
It sounds like we're sending Jordan Graham out on loan to Bradford. As part of a deal for one of their strikers possibly?

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #231 on: January 10, 2014, 10:12:02 AM »
It sounds like we're sending Jordan Graham out on loan to Bradford. As part of a deal for one of their strikers possibly?
Interesting. Maybe we'll get Wells then. At the very least it's a good level for Graham to get some games.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #232 on: January 10, 2014, 10:14:27 AM »
Still shudder every time it hear Bradford City :-)

Good luck to him, hope he gets a proper run there

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #233 on: January 10, 2014, 10:27:32 AM »
It seems obvious Lambert doesnt like or rate Carruthers. With our midfield lacking somewhat and Carruthers having some level of skill you would hope he would be given a chance to prove himself. But no he hasn't.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #234 on: January 10, 2014, 10:30:38 AM »
I'd be weary of any off our promising young players being thrown in now when we're struggling - it could really hurt them. 

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #235 on: January 10, 2014, 10:45:58 AM »
It seems obvious Lambert doesnt like or rate Carruthers. With our midfield lacking somewhat and Carruthers having some level of skill you would hope he would be given a chance to prove himself. But no he hasn't.
Samir has a questionnable attitude sometimes, that seems to be something that is holding him back. There was some phone incident, albeit minor, shortly after Lambert had arrived, which really put Samir two steps back having broken through and been quite impressive under McLeish.
When I've seen him play, mostly in pre-season, he's reminded me a lot of Craig Bellamy. Has skill but he's a niggly player. He seems easily wound up, when he's not trying to wind someone up, and he moans a lot. I think he might have a touch of the billy bigs about him, who knows, that's how I read it, so perhaps it's why Lambert's not particularly taken to him just yet.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #236 on: January 10, 2014, 12:13:01 PM »
It seems obvious Lambert doesnt like or rate Carruthers. With our midfield lacking somewhat and Carruthers having some level of skill you would hope he would be given a chance to prove himself. But no he hasn't.

Hhmmm I'd say the opposite to be honest.  The players who are loaned in this careful manner are the ones I think he is grooming for the first team.  The way it's been handled requires to much management/time/effort to suggest he doesn't care.  If he didnt care he'd either be training with the stiffs or on a season long loan like the Fonz.

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #237 on: January 10, 2014, 02:18:35 PM »
It sounds like we're sending Jordan Graham out on loan to Bradford. As part of a deal for one of their strikers possibly?

Confirmed as a one month loan deal. Will report if he gets a game!

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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #238 on: January 10, 2014, 02:43:53 PM »
Surely it is better for him to be playing in a side nearer the top than the bottom. So long as he does play.

 He's a young kid, it'd mean another new dressing room and training regime to get used to.



This.

The loan process is not about skill or technique it is about hardening off young talent.  Only game time among men can do this.  So the current form or position of the loaning club is irrelevant. The quality of the manager and coaches at the loaning club is more important.  As is the opinion of the young player in question.

For instance - one player in question here was highly sought after - even prompting the city's third team to make a cheeky offer to take him on loan.  He could stay at home in familiar surroundings they said.  The player said no - in fact he said - **** off - and returned to the down and dirty battle he had already begun.

Which shows character and a sense of what playing for Villa means.  Put these qualities together with undoubted talent and I think we have a future to be excited about.  Our senior young talents need to be out and playing against men - getting shoved, pushed, and bullied - they do not need to be strolling past other pampered boys in the hot house environment of Premiership Academies.  It may make us feel good about our academy set up - but it doesn't help the first team - and without hardening and strengthening - these young talents are not quite ready for the premier league.

In this, Lambert is doing the right thing, the likes of Grealish and Carruthers need to be out playing and learning and taking their lumps - if nothing else it will make them stronger and having tasted life as a professional in the lower leagues they will return to us with an understanding of what a privilege it is to play for a club like Aston Villa FC.

UTV
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Re: Villa player loan watch
« Reply #239 on: January 10, 2014, 03:12:15 PM »

In this, Lambert is doing the right thing, the likes of Grealish and Carruthers need to be out playing and learning and taking their lumps - if nothing else it will make them stronger and having tasted life as a professional in the lower leagues they will return to us with an understanding of what a privilege it is to play for a club like Aston Villa FC.


I think pushing home the ' be thankful where you are' message is the main thing with Carruthers.  As mentioned above he seems to have a bit of a cockiness about him, I have no issue with sportsmen knowing how good they are, but only when you've done it, you earn the right to be full of yourself and carruthers comes across as someone who needs to be reminded of that, which a season in league 1 should do.  If he can get his head down and carry on working at his game he's got the talent to make it now we need to get him mentally right for it.

Grealish is different, with him I think it's all about getting game time, he has massive potential and drifts away from tackles effortlessly but he needs to learn when to do that and when to play the simple passes.  In the last month he's started to adapt and he's scoring and creating goals pretty regularly since the start of December.  I think his attitude is spot on though, looks like he's having fun and he's always trying to get involved.

 


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