Villa player loan watch

[Matt Collins]

I agree. Next stop has got to be a championship team for both of them. It's just a question of whether it's after Xmas or next year

Graham doesn't seem to be getting any game time at Ipswich yet. Perhaps he'd have been better off in division one

[JJ-AV]

Is Grealish playing with his socks rolled down and no shinpads? Every picture he posts on Twitter of himself he seems to be.

[SoccerHQ]

Yes I asked about that when I saw his goal last week. Used to be a regular occurance in the 80s but you don't see modern players do it anymore. I like it.

I was surprised Jordan Graham went straight to a championship club for his loan spell. Big Mick must have attended a reserve game or two and liked what he'd seen.

[Handsworth Wood Villa]

[supertom]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

[tomd2103]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

[supertom]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

Most of our squad have made massive step ups to be fair. Our Youth sides seem to promote football in the right way. I'd give him some time on our bench when he's back. Get him among the first team squad and give him a go. Rather see Grealish on the bench over Bowery. There's no such thing as too young under our current regime and ethos IMO.

[pauliewalnuts]

Excellent work to set up their fourth goal by Grealish, too.

[Fuse]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

Most of our squad have made massive step ups to be fair. Our Youth sides seem to promote football in the right way. I'd give him some time on our bench when he's back. Get him among the first team squad and give him a go. Rather see Grealish on the bench over Bowery. There's no such thing as too young under our current regime and ethos IMO.

I agree.

This is what I dont get wiht Lambert. Why buy players like Bowery, Helenius, Bennett etc when he hasnt given any of our own youth a chance.

[JUAN PABLO]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

didnt we sign Bowery from the bottom of the leagues too .   why I dont know

[supertom]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

didnt we sign Bowery from the bottom of the leagues too .   why I dont know

From Chesterfields bench basically. That signing bemused everyone at his club, and probably Bowery himself more than anyone. Very strange indeed, to sign a player who couldn't hold down a place at Chesterfield and who's scoring record made Heskey look like Ian Rush.

[JUAN PABLO]

We're crying out for a player like Grealish at the moment. I'd get the lad on the bench as soon as he's back. I don't think we can use the too young excuse with our current set up. He's got a bit of guile we sorely lack. Carruthers too.

He's playing for a club who are in the bottom reaches of League One.  That would be a massive step up for him.

didnt we sign Bowery from the bottom of the leagues too .   why I dont know

From Chesterfields bench basically. That signing bemused everyone at his club, and probably Bowery himself more than anyone. Very strange indeed, to sign a player who couldn't hold down a place at Chesterfield and who's scoring record made Heskey look like Ian Rush.

very odd signing

all I heard Villa fans justifying it by saying ' well it wasnt alot of money'

oh dear

quantity over quality

[Dante Lavelli]

quantity over quality

Which was probably needed at the time, but the logic of signing Bowery is still confusing.

[OCD]

Unless they start producing the likes of Bowery will be gone in time.

Taking young players away from successful loan spells to make the bench look a bit stronger makes no sense to me and is pure short-termism. I would much rather we ensure we give our young players the best chance of making it by letting them develop their games in an environment where they're starting every game. The first team needs to be dealt with separately until that young player is genuinely ready to not just play a few minutes here and there but to be someone who can start games regularly.

[paul_e]

Unless they start producing the likes of Bowery will be gone in time.

Taking young players away from successful loan spells to make the bench look a bit stronger makes no sense to me and is pure short-termism. I would much rather we ensure we give our young players the best chance of making it by letting them develop their games in an environment where they're starting every game. The first team needs to be dealt with separately until that young player is genuinely ready to not just play a few minutes here and there but to be someone who can start games regularly.

You need a mix of both, time away on loan, if it goes well have a month or 2 back at the club around the first team and maybe the odd cameo from the bench and see how it pans out.

However well planned a loan is the work in training won't be the same so that time back with the club is just to see what they've picked up, if there are any bad habits, etc.