Mon to manage Republic of Ireland?

[villa `cross the mersey]

I just think they deserve each other - (Keane and O`Neil)

[SoccerHQ]

Trap's record with ROI was really good but as far as I can see the main issues with him was boring defensive football, inflexible formations and his bizarre instance on calling up league one players like Paul Green ahead of players actually playing in the premier league ahead of Gibson and James McCarthy.

Now these are things you can level at MON in his time here although the football was more technically limited and not boring.

I think he'll do a similar job, should get ROI to the euros seeing as 24 teams qualify.

Smart from him as he realises he's finished in club football and taking another job would've been similar to Sunderland.

IMO Keane could've done the top job on his own, no idea how that dynamic will play out.

[ChicagoLion]

I'm probably way off the mark, but I wonder if he chose Keane as his assistant as a fall guy if things go wrong......

If things go wrong I see Keane as benefiting not MON to be honest, the heir apparent and all that

If things go well and one last big club comes MON's way then I suppose the handover should be pretty seamless too.

 

As much as it grieves me to say it, I think MON will do a good job for ROI. Despite what we all know about him, players will want to play for him & the fans will want him to succeed. However, I'm not sure about the combination with Keane. One thing Keane is not is a yes man, how will MON cope with being told he's an outdated cnut?.

Interesting change from MON re his backroom strategy, he used bring a choir of yes men with him to his gigs. Keane will be anything but you suspect. It's a brave move from MON certainly but Keane is no Peter Taylor.

The Irish media in an effort to gloss over MON's recent failure at Sunderland have pointed to the lack of John Robertson as the reason for his lack of success. Clutching at straws there I suspect. But at least MON is making some effort to change his support staff, his efforts at Sunderland were truly dire and bringing just Walford, McDonagh and Guppy with him again would be worrying. Keane isnt the tactical genius MON needs though. I think the game has move beyond personality managers without the smarts to back it up. More than ever the battle between MON/Keane and the RTE panel of Giles/Brady/Dunphy will be more entertaining than anything on the pitch. Brady hates Keane with a passion and MON has sued Dunphy before I'm pretty sure.

We have a very limited squad of players at the moment but the likes of Coleman, Clark, McCarthy, Gibson, Brady, McGeady and Long are at a key stage of their respective careers. Hopefully MON can inspire the best out of them and maybe a final lash from Dunne and Robbie Keane.

I love the pluck of the Irish but some serious clutching at straws. It will all end in tears, don't even tink about getting your hopes up you have no decent International players and now you have 2 desperados in charge. What could possibly go wrong? Looking forward to more comedy

[brontebilly]

Why does Brady hate Keane with a passion?

It goes back to the Keane v Vieira days and probably before then too. Brady of course was head of the Arsenals youths set up so naturally was very pro the Gunners around that time.

He went on a mercenary rant about Keane when he left Old Trafford  -

, 3 mins in or so and was pro McCarthy in a big way back in Saipan.

He used go on a big way when Keane was playing about his petulance etc but my old man would hold the opinion that Keane in a green jersey was no more petulant than Brady. Brady's red card that caused him to miss Euro 88 was clownish behaviour of the highest degree and tended to be equally dismissive of other players and managers ala Keane.

Brady again has a right lash at Keane today which I think it uncalled for really - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/brady-questions-logic-of-oneill-bringing-disastrous-keane-into-ireland-setup-29733633.html . His own stint in management was far from inspiring.

I suspect a lot of the reason behind his disdain for Keane is primarily down to a bit of jealousy that Irish people see Keane as a better player than Brady was. Another great Irish number six who played between both of their eras, Ronnie Whelan, was and still is, another insufferable arsehole. The likes of Liam Miller and Glenn Whelan have a lot to live up to in fairness 

[rob_bridge]

Why does Brady hate Keane with a passion?

It goes back to the Keane v Vieira days and probably before then too. Brady of course was head of the Arsenals youths set up so naturally was very pro the Gunners around that time.

He went on a mercenary rant about Keane when he left Old Trafford  -

, 3 mins in or so and was pro McCarthy in a big way back in Saipan.

He used go on a big way when Keane was playing about his petulance etc but my old man would hold the opinion that Keane in a green jersey was no more petulant than Brady. Brady's red card that caused him to miss Euro 88 was clownish behaviour of the highest degree and tended to be equally dismissive of other players and managers ala Keane.

Brady again has a right lash at Keane today which I think it uncalled for really - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/brady-questions-logic-of-oneill-bringing-disastrous-keane-into-ireland-setup-29733633.html . His own stint in management was far from inspiring.

I suspect a lot of the reason behind his disdain for Keane is primarily down to a bit of jealousy that Irish people see Keane as a better player than Brady was. Another great Irish number six who played between both of their eras, Ronnie Whelan, was and still is, another insufferable arsehole. The likes of Liam Miller and Glenn Whelan have a lot to live up to in fairness 

Is that because there are more ManU fans in Ireland?

Hope neither of them are jealous of McGrath - he was better than both for Ireland.

[paul_e]

Why does Brady hate Keane with a passion?

It goes back to the Keane v Vieira days and probably before then too. Brady of course was head of the Arsenals youths set up so naturally was very pro the Gunners around that time.

He went on a mercenary rant about Keane when he left Old Trafford  -

, 3 mins in or so and was pro McCarthy in a big way back in Saipan.

He used go on a big way when Keane was playing about his petulance etc but my old man would hold the opinion that Keane in a green jersey was no more petulant than Brady. Brady's red card that caused him to miss Euro 88 was clownish behaviour of the highest degree and tended to be equally dismissive of other players and managers ala Keane.

Brady again has a right lash at Keane today which I think it uncalled for really - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/brady-questions-logic-of-oneill-bringing-disastrous-keane-into-ireland-setup-29733633.html . His own stint in management was far from inspiring.

I suspect a lot of the reason behind his disdain for Keane is primarily down to a bit of jealousy that Irish people see Keane as a better player than Brady was. Another great Irish number six who played between both of their eras, Ronnie Whelan, was and still is, another insufferable arsehole. The likes of Liam Miller and Glenn Whelan have a lot to live up to in fairness 

Is that because there are more ManU fans in Ireland?

Hope neither of them are jealous of McGrath - he was better than both for Ireland.

Fixed

[Fergal]

I am stuck on this one.  I want MoN to fail but want Ireland to progress and do well.

[rob_bridge]

Why does Brady hate Keane with a passion?

It goes back to the Keane v Vieira days and probably before then too. Brady of course was head of the Arsenals youths set up so naturally was very pro the Gunners around that time.

He went on a mercenary rant about Keane when he left Old Trafford  -

, 3 mins in or so and was pro McCarthy in a big way back in Saipan.

He used go on a big way when Keane was playing about his petulance etc but my old man would hold the opinion that Keane in a green jersey was no more petulant than Brady. Brady's red card that caused him to miss Euro 88 was clownish behaviour of the highest degree and tended to be equally dismissive of other players and managers ala Keane.

Brady again has a right lash at Keane today which I think it uncalled for really - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/brady-questions-logic-of-oneill-bringing-disastrous-keane-into-ireland-setup-29733633.html . His own stint in management was far from inspiring.

I suspect a lot of the reason behind his disdain for Keane is primarily down to a bit of jealousy that Irish people see Keane as a better player than Brady was. Another great Irish number six who played between both of their eras, Ronnie Whelan, was and still is, another insufferable arsehole. The likes of Liam Miller and Glenn Whelan have a lot to live up to in fairness 

Is that because there are more ManU fans in Ireland?

Hope neither of them are jealous of McGrath - he was better than both for Ireland.

Fixed

Thanks - I was quite correct. Now fully correct.

[rob_bridge]

I am stuck on this one.  I want MoN to fail but want Ireland to progress and do well.

Hitman. And hope Keane as learned his lesson?.

[brontebilly]

Why does Brady hate Keane with a passion?

It goes back to the Keane v Vieira days and probably before then too. Brady of course was head of the Arsenals youths set up so naturally was very pro the Gunners around that time.

He went on a mercenary rant about Keane when he left Old Trafford  -

, 3 mins in or so and was pro McCarthy in a big way back in Saipan.

He used go on a big way when Keane was playing about his petulance etc but my old man would hold the opinion that Keane in a green jersey was no more petulant than Brady. Brady's red card that caused him to miss Euro 88 was clownish behaviour of the highest degree and tended to be equally dismissive of other players and managers ala Keane.

Brady again has a right lash at Keane today which I think it uncalled for really - http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/brady-questions-logic-of-oneill-bringing-disastrous-keane-into-ireland-setup-29733633.html . His own stint in management was far from inspiring.

I suspect a lot of the reason behind his disdain for Keane is primarily down to a bit of jealousy that Irish people see Keane as a better player than Brady was. Another great Irish number six who played between both of their eras, Ronnie Whelan, was and still is, another insufferable arsehole. The likes of Liam Miller and Glenn Whelan have a lot to live up to in fairness  ;D

Is that because there are more ManU fans in Ireland?

Hope neither of them are jealous of McGrath - he was better than both for Ireland.

Maybe though Arsenal had O'Leary and Stapleton at the time too. Not sure if United traditionally would have more support back in Ireland than Arsenal.

Keane was captain of the best English club side for about 20 years during the sky sports era, superb for Ireland in a World Cup. Led the side to another world cup.

Before my time but I guess Brady's best years were in an average enough Arsenal side, poor Irish side and in Italy.

Just think there is a hint of jealousy from him in the acclaim Keane still gets at home.

[dave.woodhall]

Who in Ireland really cared abut the national side or football in general when Brady was playing?

[saunders_heroes]

Who in Ireland really cared abut the national side or football in general when Brady was playing?

Not many. It was only when Jack Charlton took over that made Irish people stood up and take notice. Before then football was always a minority sport. Still is to an extent.

[dave.woodhall]

Who in Ireland really cared abut the national side or football in general when Brady was playing?

Not many. It was only when Jack Charlton took over that made Irish people stood up and take notice. Before then football was always a minority sport. Still is to an extent.

That's what i thought. Therefore Brady's entire career went largely unknown.

[fbriai]

Before then football was always a minority sport. Still is to an extent.

Is that really true, SH? I was under the impression that it isn't really a minority sport anymore.

[Concrete John]

Before then football was always a minority sport. Still is to an extent.

Is that really true, SH? I was under the impression that it isn't really a minority sport anymore.

It will always be a poor relation to the GAA sports.

Prior to Jack Charlton there was still an interest in English league football, but less in the national side.