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Offline danlanza

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2013, 12:13:43 AM »
Couldn't there be some kind of post match ref comment made on video, explaining his decisions. "I  made this decision because of this...".
Not live and to be questioned but just to explain.
It's the consistent inconsistency that f**ks up everyone's understanding of the rules.
So, one game a ref sends a player off for using an elbow.
In the Chelsea game he books Ivanovic for using an elbow (sending off?) so must have made a reasoned decision as to why NOT to take stronger action.
Players, managers and supporters need to know what is a booking, sending off etc, so that we ALL know what's what.
A move towards the rugby union use of ref microphones, explaining on the spot, would be a step forward imho.
Spot on mate. Refs should be made to do an interview after every game. Infact, with the money in football now make refs fully proffesional. Pay them a bloody good wage to do one thing, proffesional reffing and nothing else. Fucking Grammar school teachers are not up to the job, proven.

You mean like they have been since 2001?
They are not paid enough to do the job properly. Do they go to Ref school ?

No, they get the job as a prize in an annual raffle.
Read my amended post above.

Offline James

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2013, 11:16:10 AM »
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They are not paid enough to do the job properly. Do they go to Ref school? A proffesional ref would not buckle under pressure. Whilst we are on the subject of Refs, if the language that over paid tossers give to refs was fineable for every swear word they used then most Prem players would earn fuck all per week. Football needs to wake up and show the refs some respect, like Rugby refs get, as was posted earlier. Long bloody argument is going to start now no doubt. Swear at a ref- Red card, simple.

The top PL refs clear £130k per year, or so I once read. I'd call that enough for 90minutes of concentration a week. Friend is a professional ref and he did buckle. Football is a man's game and there's swearing and there's disrespect. Two different things. They're not babies FFS!

When ref's first went professional it was to make them accountable, however it seems that they are only accountable to the FA, who in turn are accountable to their sponsored clubs of choice (we all know who they are!). The whole thing stinks. Until they are accountable to an independent body and made to explain their outrageous bias nothing will change, and that suits the FA.

If I were Lambert I'd refuse to pay and refer the FA to the ECHR, after all, does he not have the right to free speech? It's farcical.

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2013, 11:56:15 AM »
Couldn't there be some kind of post match ref comment made on video, explaining his decisions. "I  made this decision because of this...".
Not live and to be questioned but just to explain.
It's the consistent inconsistency that f**ks up everyone's understanding of the rules.
So, one game a ref sends a player off for using an elbow.
In the Chelsea game he books Ivanovic for using an elbow (sending off?) so must have made a reasoned decision as to why NOT to take stronger action.
Players, managers and supporters need to know what is a booking, sending off etc, so that we ALL know what's what.
A move towards the rugby union use of ref microphones, explaining on the spot, would be a step forward imho.
Spot on mate. Refs should be made to do an interview after every game. Infact, with the money in football now make refs fully proffesional. Pay them a bloody good wage to do one thing, proffesional reffing and nothing else. Fucking Grammar school teachers are not up to the job, proven.

You mean like they have been since 2001?
They are not paid enough to do the job properly. Do they go to Ref school ?

No, they get the job as a prize in an annual raffle.
Read my amended post above.
Dan, I think you've missed the point. The refs we see in the P'ship are all fully professional and well paid.

The issue is not that they sometimes make mistakes; it is that they seem to be above reproach. Yes, they will get assessed and demoted if found to be poor but for the paying public there is no opportunity to hear the logic of some decisions.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2013, 12:04:13 PM »
I thought the pro refs got £70k+ a year? I'm sure I read that figure in an article a while ago.

Offline bill

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2013, 12:42:32 PM »
One day someone in the game will prosecute the FA under the freedom of speech article of the Human rights act. If someone libels an official then they have recourse to the law.Anything else is simple opinion. The FA in my opinion would lose any such action.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2013, 01:13:59 PM »
What a load of tommy tank.

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2013, 01:32:42 PM »
Couldn't there be some kind of post match ref comment made on video, explaining his decisions. "I  made this decision because of this...".
Not live and to be questioned but just to explain.
It's the consistent inconsistency that f**ks up everyone's understanding of the rules.
So, one game a ref sends a player off for using an elbow.
In the Chelsea game he books Ivanovic for using an elbow (sending off?) so must have made a reasoned decision as to why NOT to take stronger action.
Players, managers and supporters need to know what is a booking, sending off etc, so that we ALL know what's what.
A move towards the rugby union use of ref microphones, explaining on the spot, would be a step forward imho.
Spot on mate. Refs should be made to do an interview after every game. Infact, with the money in football now make refs fully proffesional. Pay them a bloody good wage to do one thing, proffesional reffing and nothing else. Fucking Grammar school teachers are not up to the job, proven.

You mean like they have been since 2001?
They are not paid enough to do the job properly. Do they go to Ref school ?

No, they get the job as a prize in an annual raffle.
Read my amended post above.

Dan, I would argue that turning the refs 'professional' has actually played right into the hands of the big clubs.

The ref's livelehood now depends upon their performance, and it's clear as day that if you upset one of the high profile clubs your arse is on the line.

David Ellerary, for example, didn't give a toss who he upset as come Monday he just went back to his day job.


Offline eamonn

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2013, 02:49:43 PM »
Head teacher in Harrow or something.

Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2013, 02:53:26 PM »
And what about the ref? He broke the rules during the game. What punishment does he get?

Online Monty

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2013, 02:55:45 PM »
And what about the ref? He broke the rules during the game. What punishment does he get?

I imagine he'll be manacled in a brand new Rolex.

Offline Havencheese

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2013, 03:47:17 PM »
And what about the ref? He broke the rules during the game. What punishment does he get?

I imagine he'll be manacled in a brand new Rolex.

...and didn't our mate the Arrogant One (or whatever he refers to himself as these days) jump to his defence ever so quickly.

Friend and Chelsea's manager - tossers the pair of them and in cahoots.

Offline Astral Weeks

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2013, 09:12:37 AM »
Refs get paid a salary that I imagine most of us would be happy to accept:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_salary_of_an_English_Premier_League_referee

Offline ventnor villain

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2013, 10:08:56 AM »
Part of the problem with refs now IS the fact that they are professional, paid a lot of money and see the job as a career. If you are an elite panel ref you will want to referee the top games i.e. Man Ure, Chelski, Citeh etc. and cup finals etc. which usually involve at least one of these teams. If you upset their managers too much they moan to the F.A. who then take them off their games for a time. Fergie was a master at it. Therefore if you want to get on as a ref, the moral of the story is don't upset the top teams.

Offline Tuco Salamanca

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2013, 02:35:38 PM »
"We've been done by two decisions that were wrong.

"Decisions like that, I don't think you can miss them, I really don't. They're big game-changers. My team never deserved that."

Bit confused he admitted to the charge as I'm not sure I see those comments as questioning the integrity of the ref or accusing him of cheating.



Malandro

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Re: Lambert charged £8,000 for Chelsea post match comments
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2013, 04:41:57 PM »
cheating fricking ref

 


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