Libor Kozák (confirmed post #190)

[aj2k77]

Personality and commitment is useless without any quality. I wasn't too impressed with Kozak yesterday, he's too slow to play with Benteke. We shall see!

How unimpressed were you with his goal?

I think Shola Ameobi scored a goal once, so I'm not sure that's the best argument Dave.

From what I've seen of Kozak, he looks like he could become a reasonable striker in the league. I don't think him playing alongside Benteke is going to bear much fruit in the long run though. I think Kozak could flourish in a side that plays with a lot of width.

I fail to see how you can criticise a striker in a game where he scores.

Do you believe he's showed glimpses of a £7m player at all so far?

[Mister E]

Personality and commitment is useless without any quality. I wasn't too impressed with Kozak yesterday, he's too slow to play with Benteke. We shall see!

How unimpressed were you with his goal?

I think Shola Ameobi scored a goal once, so I'm not sure that's the best argument Dave.

From what I've seen of Kozak, he looks like he could become a reasonable striker in the league. I don't think him playing alongside Benteke is going to bear much fruit in the long run though. I think Kozak could flourish in a side that plays with a lot of width.

I fail to see how you can criticise a striker in a game where he scores.

Do you believe he's showed glimpses of a £7m player at all so far?

Accepting that he obvioulsy lacks pace, I thought some of his first touches and link-up plays were excellent yesterday. I doubt we'll see him scoring some of the individual goals that Benteke succeeded with last season but he might turn into a reasonable P'ship striker, in time.

[eastie]

Personality and commitment is useless without any quality. I wasn't too impressed with Kozak yesterday, he's too slow to play with Benteke. We shall see!

How unimpressed were you with his goal?

I think Shola Ameobi scored a goal once, so I'm not sure that's the best argument Dave.

From what I've seen of Kozak, he looks like he could become a reasonable striker in the league. I don't think him playing alongside Benteke is going to bear much fruit in the long run though. I think Kozak could flourish in a side that plays with a lot of width.

I fail to see how you can criticise a striker in a game where he scores.

Do you believe he's showed glimpses of a £7m player at all so far?

Yes he has , he has scored twice and only started 3 or 4 games - he was twice denied from headers yesterday and his movement helped create weimanns goal against city - we haven't played to his strengths when we used him as a target man but he has certainly shown enough in his opening few games to suggest he could be useful - give the guy a chance for Christ sake!

[dave.woodhall]

Personality and commitment is useless without any quality. I wasn't too impressed with Kozak yesterday, he's too slow to play with Benteke. We shall see!

How unimpressed were you with his goal?

I think Shola Ameobi scored a goal once, so I'm not sure that's the best argument Dave.

From what I've seen of Kozak, he looks like he could become a reasonable striker in the league. I don't think him playing alongside Benteke is going to bear much fruit in the long run though. I think Kozak could flourish in a side that plays with a lot of width.

I fail to see how you can criticise a striker in a game where he scores.

Do you believe he's showed glimpses of a £7m player at all so far?

Plenty. The goals he's scored, for a start.

[PaulWinch again]

His header for the goal was excellent and a really tough thing to do.

[aj2k77]

Personality and commitment is useless without any quality. I wasn't too impressed with Kozak yesterday, he's too slow to play with Benteke. We shall see!

How unimpressed were you with his goal?

I think Shola Ameobi scored a goal once, so I'm not sure that's the best argument Dave.

From what I've seen of Kozak, he looks like he could become a reasonable striker in the league. I don't think him playing alongside Benteke is going to bear much fruit in the long run though. I think Kozak could flourish in a side that plays with a lot of width.

I fail to see how you can criticise a striker in a game where he scores.

Do you believe he's showed glimpses of a £7m player at all so far?

Plenty. The goals he's scored, for a start.

Ok fair enough.

If he ends up scoring 1 in 3 or 4 or 10ish goals per season that's not a bad record and I hope he does.

To me he looks very slow, doesn't win enough duels in the air and on yesterdays performance Benteke and him need to work up a partnership because on a few occasions they were both going for the same balls and not playing off each other.

On the plus side his header was great from an awkward position, his hold up play was better and his awareness to play off the smaller man when crosses came in was good. I just find it hard to see a place for him if the team develops the style Lambert I think wants it to with the mobility factor.

[dave.woodhall]

So far he's scored the only goal in a game and the second in a 2-0. That's two points, possibly four knowing our penchant for throwing away leads, he's got us and that might could repay his transfer fee by the end of the season. 

[pauliewalnuts]

To me he looks very slow, doesn't win enough duels in the air and on yesterdays performance Benteke and him need to work up a partnership because on a few occasions they were both going for the same balls and not playing off each other.

How many times had they played together before yesterday?

[aj2k77]

To me he looks very slow, doesn't win enough duels in the air and on yesterdays performance Benteke and him need to work up a partnership because on a few occasions they were both going for the same balls and not playing off each other.

How many times had they played together before yesterday?

None. That's why i'm saying they need to work on the partnership. Some have a natural link up, complimentary styles. These two don't and will need to work at it in training.

[Dante Lavelli]

None. That's why i'm saying they need to work on the partnership. Some have a natural link up, complimentary styles. These two don't and will need to work at it in training.

I've got to admit that benteke and Kovac are not what you'd typically choose as a partnership. 
Sutton and Shearer had a bit of success but that was a long time ago and I fear that football's changed a fair bit since then.  I hope Lambert doesn't become too keen to pair them together as I think midfield will suffer long term.

[LeeB]

One thing that irks me is the issue of his cost.

He's a young international and it was probably more like £4m plus add ons.

It's not 1998 anymore, that money doesn't buy you the finished article.

[Toronto Villa]

One thing that irks me is the issue of his cost.

He's a young international and it was probably more like £4m plus add ons.

It's not 1998 anymore, that money doesn't buy you the finished article.

It's so ridiculous to be harping on like £7m being such an immense amount of money. In PL terms it's nothing at all, and even for us, not remotely close to some of the money we've spent. And like many of our other deals it likely isn't £7m at all but closer to what you're suggesting. He's a young international footballer with loads of potential.

[pauliewalnuts]

One thing that irks me is the issue of his cost.

He's a young international and it was probably more like £4m plus add ons.

It's not 1998 anymore, that money doesn't buy you the finished article.

It's so ridiculous to be harping on like £7m being such an immense amount of money. In PL terms it's nothing at all, and even for us, not remotely close to some of the money we've spent. And like many of our other deals it likely isn't £7m at all but closer to what you're suggesting. He's a young international footballer with loads of potential.

I think it's actually a decent amount in the new financial frame of reference we're operating in, to be honest. It's certainly the top end of fees I can see us paying for a while.

None of that, however, explains how it is possible to decide he's shit after such a short period. I just don't get it.

People having reservations, yes. People doubting him, yes. But this week I've seen people actually writing him off as rubbish.

[eastie]

One thing that irks me is the issue of his cost.

He's a young international and it was probably more like £4m plus add ons.

It's not 1998 anymore, that money doesn't buy you the finished article.

It's so ridiculous to be harping on like £7m being such an immense amount of money. In PL terms it's nothing at all, and even for us, not remotely close to some of the money we've spent. And like many of our other deals it likely isn't £7m at all but closer to what you're suggesting. He's a young international footballer with loads of potential.

I think it's actually a decent amount in the new financial frame of reference we're operating in, to be honest. It's certainly the top end of fees I can see us paying for a while.

None of that, however, explains how it is possible to decide he's shit after such a short period. I just don't get it.

People having reservations, yes. People doubting him, yes. But this week I've seen people actually writing him off as rubbish.

It's no surprise- some were writing off benteke after he had played a similar amount of games last season - especially after the saints away game .

Kozak is doing fine .

[Pete3206]

Kozak is doing fine

Absolutely