Fabian Delph - Signed for Manchester City

[Dave]

It's Dave Kitson isn't it?

Who to be fair would have no concept of being loved by his own supporters or playing regular international football, so you can understand why he's confused by all of this.

To be fair, you'd think he might recommend caution given how badly his own big money move to a bigger club went. 

Even if that bigger club was only Stoke.

[Richard E]

taking up a set of answers too him I asked in all seriousness "Do you think Benteke will leave the Villa"  He answered as if it was a revelation, "Yes, yes I do". He didn't detect any hint of sarcasm when I stated he should have mentioned that at some time in the last 3 months.  He went on to say, "I'm surprised Delph didn't go".  "Don't you mean disappointed" I said.  He gave me a confused look as I walked away.

You deserve to be awarded the H&V equivalent of a gold Blue Peter badge for this.

[Tom_Mc9?]

Dave Kitson of the 'gingerism is as bad as racism' fame.

[edgysatsuma89]

Tim Sherwood on Delph just on SSN:

'I knew there was an interest that Man City and a few other clubs showed an interest in Fabian as i expected for such a small fee on the buyout clause...'

Now I'm all for hating the media but when it is so comprehensive I'm not sure why so many were quick to start slamming every outlet.

He goes on to say that he told him to decide with his heart.

I'm sure someone will put a link up somewhere.

[chrisw1]

Theres a sherwood interview here

http://www.skysports.com/iframe/widget/video/FidGI3djqJmGBvBP-04xnBGobfybUlfZ#ooid=FidGI3djqJmGBvBP-04xnBGobfybUlfZ

[Gregorys Boy]

I don't think we really need to know the reasons just that it is good news for us.  If we get another strong season out of him and then sell him next season likely for a profit then he would be deemed a success.

Interesting debate about Delph's decision on the Monday Night Club last night.  Kilbane saying he should have gone because these chances don't come along very often (or ever in his case ) and because he felt Delph was good enough to break into the City side regular (he may have a point there), but on the other side Alex Scott and Rorey Smith saying that with the Euros coming up Delph is giving himself a better chance at going if he stays and plays every week for us, and that if he plays well this season then another big offer may well come anyway.  I agree more with the second opinion, but then I would, wouldn't I Thoughts?

[peter w]

Putting the clause in means delph wanted to have the option of going. It came and he didn't take it so the question is why? What's changed? Maybe because he seems to be first choice in England's midfield is the biggest sway football wise. Maybe it is the so-called lack of bottle, ambition, acceptance that he is at his level. I doubt that though because he's picked ahead of the then Man City now Liverpool, and forever loved James Milner. If he did think why risk it then I'm not sure that is the best for us in all honesty. he's here because he's scared of being on the bench there is how it could be summed up if the angle is to be believed.

It could also be off the pitch issues such as a happy settled family.

he needs to sign a new contract changing or removing that release clause though.

 

[OCD]

That clause was always likely to be an issue for the club but with everybody now knowing about it, it makes it far worse. Every time he gets linked to a move, everyone's going to get worried that he's going to leave.

[dave.woodhall]

That clause was always likely to be an issue for the club but with everybody now knowing about it, it makes it far worse. Every time he gets linked to a move, everyone's going to get worried that he's going to leave.

I doubt it wasn't known in football before then.

[peter w]

Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.

[Chris Smith]

Putting the clause in means delph wanted to have the option of going. It came and he didn't take it so the question is why? What's changed? Maybe because he seems to be first choice in England's midfield is the biggest sway football wise. Maybe it is the so-called lack of bottle, ambition, acceptance that he is at his level. I doubt that though because he's picked ahead of the then Man City now Liverpool, and forever loved James Milner. If he did think why risk it then I'm not sure that is the best for us in all honesty. he's here because he's scared of being on the bench there is how it could be summed up if the angle is to be believed.

It could also be off the pitch issues such as a happy settled family.

he needs to sign a new contract changing or removing that release clause though.

 

My guess is it was in case we got relegated which was a real possibility at the time, which would be perfectly understandable.

[KevinGage]

Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated.

Insurance.

I dare say he was made promises about the plans and future direction of the club when he signed the new deal.

If that changes, of he feels we aren't trying, the option is there.

It is just an option though. If he was dead set against hitching his future to us, he could have just seen his last contract out.

[Dave]

Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.

To give himself options?

If he wants to leave at any point then he will use it to leave. If he doesn't want to leave, then it doesn't matter if it's there or not as we found out at the weekend.

And any scrutiny isn't going to run any further than a few hundred Villa fans across a couple of forums panicking about it every transfer window until he eventually does leave us.

[FatSam]

Interesting debate about Delph's decision on the Monday Night Club last night.  Kilbane saying he should have gone because these chances don't come along very often (or ever in his case ) and because he felt Delph was good enough to break into the City side regular (he may have a point there), but on the other side Alex Scott and Rorey Smith saying that with the Euros coming up Delph is giving himself a better chance at going if he stays and plays every week for us, and that if he plays well this season then another big offer may well come anyway.  I agree more with the second opinion, but then I would, wouldn't I Thoughts?

I listened to this as well. I Had a lot of trouble with the prevailing sentiment that if a bigger club comes in for you, you owe it to yourself to move, regardless of any other considerations. Maybe Manchester City aren't as big a draw as they think they are? They certainly aren't to me because I have been following football for more than ten years. They do seem to be for Raheem Sterling, but then he's only young, and impressionable.

Ignoring for a moment his statement of loyalty when he signed the new contract, I would have understood if he had left. At the same time though, I don't think he is a reprehensible human being to have stayed. In fact I think it shows the kind of determination that would have been admired in years gone by.

[peter w]

Problem is when or how he gets rid of it. If indeed he does. Why put it in if you don't want it activated. If he dies get rid of it too quickly then he maybe makes himself ridiculous and lets the story linger on. If he doesn't then he's open to scrutiny as to why he hasn't got rid of it and his long-term commitment to the cause.

To give himself options?

If he wants to leave at any point then he will use it to leave. If he doesn't want to leave, then it doesn't matter if it's there or not as we found out at the weekend.

And any scrutiny isn't going to run any further than a few hundred Villa fans across a couple of forums panicking about it every transfer window until he eventually does leave us.

But the reported figure is ridiculously low and probably around half the market value for an England international.

You're right that the scrutiny may be there from just a few hundred people but why have it there if it leaves needless question marks hanging over him.