Do you have the right to moan?

[Titus Aduxus]

Does everyone of your posts contain an anecdote about your father/brother/sister/tutor/mother/uncle/teacher?

I havent even got a sister so I dont know where you get your information from.

[olaftab]

How can having enough money and spare time to go to lots of games make someone better than you? Is how I look at it.

Exactly the reasons why I don't think I am a better fan than anyone else

[Lizz]

Does everyone of your posts contain an anecdote about your father/brother/sister/tutor/mother/uncle/teacher?

I havent even got a sister so I dont know where you get your information from.

Ok, you don't have a sister, regardless, but you do quote your relatives/educational advisers an awful lot.

[danlanza]

I have both the home and away kit this season. 150 quid, so i will moan whenever i want. I will moan at the signed photo of Lambert that i have as well.
Thousands of pounds i have put into the club since the age of 16. Hopefully though, this season, there will not be much to moan about.
UTV

[olaftab]

Do you really have full kit?  If so I have no sympathy for you looking silly!

[Clampy]

I suppose it can depend on what people are moaning about and how often they do it. I've noticed from the years that I've been on here that the one's who don't go on a regular basis are the one's that tend to whinge about things the most, Greg being a classic example.

[danlanza]

Do you really have full kit?  If so I have no sympathy for you looking silly!

I wear the tops on match days and the shorts are for dossing around the house mate. The socks are for cold nights in Winter. I do not wear the whole kit at once, well, maybe first thing in the morning when i am getting worked up for a game, if you know what i mean.

[Titus Aduxus]

Guess what, my Dad's brother is only coming with us to the game today.  He is having one of my brothers tickets.

After all my Dad saying that people who hardly go or only go when they get freebies are not what he calls real Villa supporters.

[olaftab]

Are you Prince William?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Does everyone of your posts contain an anecdote about your father/brother/sister/tutor/mother/uncle/teacher?

I havent even got a sister so I dont know where you get your information from.

Ok, you don't have a sister, regardless, but you do quote your relatives/educational advisers an awful lot.

Nothing wrong with that.
Refers to those who are close and respected and influential.

With a username like mine family's important and part of my love for the Villa.

[olaftab]

Just realised that TA is only 19 so it's only natural that he has not had enough of his own life experiences to quote and therefore he is correct  to rely upon those he admires and trusts.

[Chris Jameson]

Has it really taken as many as 4 pages for the 'you don't go to the games so you're not a Villa supporter' old chestnut to come up?

[PaulWinch again]

I rarely get to Villa Park, because I live in Winchester and transport and tickets cost a lot. I don't think you have to be at the ground every week to be a Villa supporter. Every time Villa lose it hurts me a lot and when we win I'm elated, I don't think I'd be any different if I was every game.

[Villa in Denmark]

Everbody had the right to moan, about anything - it's freedom of expression.

What you know about the person moaning influences how much credence you give to the complainant.

[CyprusVillain]

Adding my $0.02* worth, I'm of a similar opinion. I've followed Villa since 1998, and would definitely consider myself a fan - but I've only ever been to one live match (it's a long way from New Zealand).  It's just not practical for me to get to games, and I really don't spend a lot of money on Aston Villa. Personally, I have no problem with the idea that some fans are 'better' than me... Full credit to them, and I certainly would agree with the idea that those who've stuck through rough times, home & away, deserve to enjoy the good moments more so than me.

Due to where I live, the social repercussions of winning & losing aren't as visible (or insufferable?) - there's just not enough workmates here who really care. So it probably also doesn't ruin my week as much when we lose -  but it also means I have less people who I can moan to. Not sure what that means in terms of my 'right' to moan, though.

On the other hand, I would feel a little bit disgruntled at the idea that I'm not committed. I'm sure there's not many here that would know what it's like to get up at 2 or 3am every Sunday or Monday morning to watch live football... Those bad defeats feel doubly bad at 8am when you're bleary eyed at work, without the emotional payoff that makes it easy to overlook the lack of sleep!

The 'not a real fan' thing has been done to death, but it's worth noting again that there's different ways of measuring commitment.

With you on this Garyth. I get along to B6 as often as I can - but Cyprus is a long way away. Made two trips last season - the Boxing Day defeat to Spurs and the mighty tonking of Sunderland.

Tend to moan with other Villa fans, in safe company as it were. Would avoid moaning out loud in front of the fans of other teams - its like carping on about your partner in front of people who do not share the same loyalty to the people who you choose to associate with.