Dodgy Decisions In Our Favour

[eamonn]

There was a Stoke game at VP a couple of years back which we won 1-0 and they had a goal disallowed for absolutely nothing. I think it might have been the TSM season so any win was important that season.

Nope, we drew 1-1 in the Stoke home game under McLeish last year.

[phantom limb]

When you look back at TSM's season Hutton got away with absolute murder at times. I'm normally hugely biased towards Villa obviously, but when he annihilated Shane Long I assumed he'd be sent off and it would have been the right decision.

There were numerous handballs and other dangerous fouls throughout the season that weren't given against him. It was like he was somehow doing the Jedi mind trick on referees, I honestly don't know how he didn't get sent off or at least give a penalty away in most of our games.

[Concrete John]

Wasn't it a really soft penalty when we beat the noses 1-0 at Villa Park the season before they were relegated last ?They were playing  better than us and Johnson actually got the ball when tackling Gabby IIRC.Milner scored the penalty.I remember feeling that we were really lucky to have won that game

They played okay but I don't remember them being better than us. Plus the defender took Gabby's legs away even though he got the slightest touch of the ball. Any other part of the pitch it would have been an immediate free kick without anyone even batting an eyelid.

Nah they played really well and had 2-3 off the line and hit the post in the second half while we created little.

MON had incredible fortune in the derby games aside from the 5-1.

Stewart Downing should have put the game to bed well before anyway. Clean through and smashed his shot straight at Joe Hart, who was their best player on the day by a country mile.

I think first half we bossed most it without creating all that much and inevitably looked like running out of steam around about 'Heskey' time. Then they did have a really good spell and should have scored from a couple of clear cut chances.

Also MON had some fortune in the 5-1 as 2 or 3  of the goals were offside / borderline. That said we still murdered the Neanderthals.

I thought it was a fairly even game (the Johnson/Gabby penalty one) and a draw would have been the fair result.  But we murdered them in the 5-1 game and if anything that scoreline flattered them a bit! 

[olaftab]

I remember Lee Bowyer & Keiron Dyer deciding to try & have a fight on the pitch with each other which resulted in them both getting sent off.

That's not really a bad decision though. The referee applied the law completely correctly.

It certainly worked in our favour though.

I don't think it did as I don't remember us scoring anymore goals when they went down to 9?

[Phil from the upper holte]

Southampton away on the Monday night football, they had a goal disallowed when the ball was clearly over the line, we won 1-0

[rob_bridge]

Southampton away on the Monday night football, they had a goal disallowed when the ball was clearly over the line, we won 1-0

Yes - very good call. Forgot that one. Header I think. Bozzie clawed it out

The truely enjoyable season of 95-96.

[Dave]

I remember Lee Bowyer & Keiron Dyer deciding to try & have a fight on the pitch with each other which resulted in them both getting sent off.

That's not really a bad decision though. The referee applied the law completely correctly.

It certainly worked in our favour though.

I don't think it did as I don't remember us scoring anymore goals when they went down to 9?

They were down to eight by that point at Taylor had already been sent off.

We didn't score any more goals, but I still think it's safe to say that having two opposition players sent off for fighting each other is going to be advantageous to us.

[jeowje]

Yes, the southampton away game. We outplayed them so clearly that at half time when discussing the disallowed goal, even our good friend Richard Keys conceeded that Southampton didnt deserve to be level.

[olaftab]

They were down to eight by that point at Taylor had already been sent off.

We didn't score any more goals, but I still think it's safe to say that having two opposition players sent off for fighting each other is going to be advantageous to us.

Yes and we also  avoided a 4-4 scoreline!

[ez]

There was a Stoke game at VP a couple of years back which we won 1-0 and they had a goal disallowed for absolutely nothing. I think it might have been the TSM season so any win was important that season.

Nope, we drew 1-1 in the Stoke home game under McLeish last year.

That's right. McLeish celebrated at the end.

[ez]

I remember Peter Withe getting away with an elbow to the Barcelona defender's face a second before Gary Shaw scored in the super cup second leg. They had been giving out plenty themselves mind.

[gervilla]

I remember Peter Withe getting away with an elbow to the Barcelona defender's face a second before Gary Shaw scored in the super cup second leg. They had been giving out plenty themselves mind.

They sure were.
They were a right shower of dirty bastards. I'm sure Sid will have fond memories of getting kicked in to the goals after the penalty.

[dcdavecollett]

The Barry sending-off was against Pompey in O'Blarney's first game in charge. Apparently, he swore at a linesman.

Meanwhile, Paul Scholes told match officials to f***off after every decision he didn't like all through in his career and was never sent off once.

Hmmm. Wonder why ManUre win so many things?

[rob_bridge]

I remember Peter Withe getting away with an elbow to the Barcelona defender's face a second before Gary Shaw scored in the super cup second leg. They had been giving out plenty themselves mind.

They sure were.
They were a right shower of dirty bastards. I'm sure Sid will have fond memories of getting kicked in to the goals after the penalty.

A good job we had smilie thugs like Withie and McNaught and quieter hardmen like Bremner and Alan Evans to deal with that bunch of animals.

[Dave]

The Barry sending-off was against Pompey in O'Blarney's first game in charge. Apparently, he swore at a linesman.

Meanwhile, Paul Scholes told match officials to f***off after every decision he didn't like all through in his career and was never sent off once.

Hmmm. Wonder why ManUre win so many things?

But we don't know what Barry said and whether it was equivalent.

I remember an interview with Graham Poll, who basically said that a referee is quite happy for a player to swear at him as he understands that it's normally a heat of the moment reaction. Normal procedure is to give them enough time to calm down and if they then continue then you start getting cards out. I'd also imagine that there are some things that you can't say and will automatically warrant a red card, but I don't think that "f*ck off ref" is going to be at that level.

I forget the chap who posts who is a qualified referee and whether the above is along the lines that he goes with?

In the situation with Barry, I can't think of any reason that Graham Barber specifically had it in for either Villa or Barry, and nor do I think that every other player on the pitch had quietly gone about his business and not said anything to the officials, so I'd assume his red card was warranted.