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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #195 on: July 29, 2013, 08:16:06 PM »
I think Vlaar and Clark was his preferred partnership last season, so I can see him having the mentality of keeping that and wanting the likes of Okore to play himself into the side.  One thing about last season was there wasn't any pressure on the CBs for their places, which there will be next season, so hopefully that alone will see an improvement.

If that's the case, Okore will just have to turn up with both of his legs attached, because Clark is a woeful CB. I like the lad, I really do, but if he plays every game in the centre of our defence, we will ship a shedload again.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #196 on: July 29, 2013, 08:16:22 PM »
For the first time in a long time, we actually have a decent sized squad (2 players for each position) and should actually be able to start loaning promising players out so that they get their first taste of competitive football. Cahill went out to Burnley, Baker went out to Millwall so we really need to be getting Donacien and others out to clubs that will play them regularly, probably at Championship clubs.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #197 on: July 29, 2013, 09:23:59 PM »
It's been vlaar and Clark partnered together in the last three games. Now this might be because vlaar and baker had a fair few games together at the back end of last season and so don't need the practice. Or it might be because lambert still favours that pairing as his first choice - or is at least giving Clark ample opportunities to take his place alongside vlaar.

But I will be really disheartened if Clark is in the side at the emirates I have to say.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #198 on: July 29, 2013, 09:26:50 PM »
It's been vlaar and Clark partnered together in the last three games. Now this might be because vlaar and baker had a fair few games together at the back end of last season and so don't need the practice. Or it might be because lambert still favours that pairing as his first choice - or is at least giving Clark ample opportunities to take his place alongside vlaar.

But I will be really disheartened if Clark is in the side at the emirates I have to say.

This.  I just don't rate him.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #199 on: July 29, 2013, 10:14:13 PM »
Unfortunately for Okore, his injury may have stopped him getting any chance to start at the emirates.
He would really have to make an appearance on Wednesday night if he was hoping to start.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #200 on: July 29, 2013, 10:44:48 PM »
Unfortunately for Okore, his injury may have stopped him getting any chance to start at the emirates.
He would really have to make an appearance on Wednesday night if he was hoping to start.

I really hope he can make it. Our other CB's scare the crap out of me. maybe Okore will too but I havent seen him play a full game yet so I choose to believe he is a world beater :)

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #201 on: July 30, 2013, 12:11:54 AM »
Unfortunately for Okore, his injury may have stopped him getting any chance to start at the emirates.
He would really have to make an appearance on Wednesday night if he was hoping to start.

If he plays the full Malaga game he'll still have a shout at starting at Arsenal.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #202 on: July 31, 2013, 09:25:21 PM »
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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #203 on: July 31, 2013, 09:34:23 PM »
Shut this thread. There is no problem.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #204 on: July 31, 2013, 09:35:40 PM »
Unfortunately for Okore, his injury may have stopped him getting any chance to start at the emirates.
He would really have to make an appearance on Wednesday night if he was hoping to start.

If he plays the full Malaga game he'll still have a shout at starting at Arsenal.

Depends on whether he's been able to do any other cardio whilst injured (no idea what his injury is).
I suspect he'll be eased in over the first half of the season.  We weren't that bad in the back third last year so no need to expose a new inexperienced signing, who lacks match practise.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #205 on: July 31, 2013, 11:11:44 PM »
I dont think friendlies count, so we will be hearing the "no clean sheet since x" from commentators until we keep one in a competitive game.

Anyway good to see. Funny we keep a clean sheet the time Lambert decides he is too defensive minded with 4-3-3 and plays 4 up front.

I see him walking into the dressing room and telling Culverhouse "see I told you, we just needed more attackers" Culverhouse puts his head in his hands and sobs with Guzan :)

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #206 on: July 31, 2013, 11:15:31 PM »
I dont think friendlies count, so we will be hearing the "no clean sheet since x" from commentators until we keep one in a competitive game.

Anyway good to see. Funny we keep a clean sheet the time Lambert decides he is too defensive minded with 4-3-3 and plays 4 up front.

I see him walking into the dressing room and telling Culverhouse "see I told you, we just needed more attackers" Culverhouse puts his head in his hands and sobs with Guzan :)

we stick to what we are good at

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #207 on: August 05, 2013, 11:55:50 AM »
I hope the fans is asking Paul Lambert about defensive coaching tonight at the fan forum.

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #208 on: August 05, 2013, 12:03:31 PM »
Shut this thread. There is no problem.

Exactly, can people not see we've kept clean sheets against BOTH Walsall and Shamrock?

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Re: Ongoing Defensive Frailties
« Reply #209 on: August 05, 2013, 11:40:19 PM »
Shut this thread. There is no problem.

Exactly, can people not see we've kept clean sheets against BOTH Walsall and Shamrock?

Still got my concerns, as a couple of injuries and we could be struggling at CB again.  I still think we are missing a Colin Calderwood or Simon Grayson type (solid squad player who can come in and do a job over a couple of games) and would prefer to see someone like that in the squad ahead of Clark.  I still think Clark would benefit from a loan spell in the Championship, but our lack of numbers mean that isn't really a possibility I guess.

 


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