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Offline passitsideways

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« Reply #1710 on: June 23, 2016, 07:51:44 AM »
Nothing wrong with Richard's ability, it is his malevolent attitude and pea brain that are the insurmountable problems.

I think having a pea brain goes towards his footballing ability - it means he has no idea where the fuck he needs to be half of the time, which is obviously a key component of a defender's skillset.

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« Reply #1711 on: June 23, 2016, 08:10:21 AM »
Agree 100% passit but I would add only that many pea brained footballers have scaled the heights.  Paul Gascoigne is a typical example.  They have the ability to not use their tiny brains at all and let instinct take over.  Glen Hoddle is another.

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« Reply #1712 on: June 23, 2016, 09:16:39 AM »
Nothing wrong with Richard's ability, it is his malevolent attitude and pea brain that are the insurmountable problems.

I think having a pea brain goes towards his footballing ability - it means he has no idea where the fuck he needs to be half of the time, which is obviously a key component of a defender's skillset.

When you add to that his poor attitude last season then it is not a good mix.  I don't want to see Richards anywhere near the team again and hope someone takes him off our hands in the summer.  I hope to see a new RB signed in the summer.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1713 on: June 23, 2016, 11:53:56 AM »
Richards positional awareness was utterly shocking at times. I don't think he's a very intelligent individual nor a professional football.

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« Reply #1714 on: June 23, 2016, 12:34:35 PM »
Agree 100% passit but I would add only that many pea brained footballers have scaled the heights.  Paul Gascoigne is a typical example.  They have the ability to not use their tiny brains at all and let instinct take over.  Glen Hoddle is another.

You can get away with being thick if you play further forward, you don't see many decent defenders who are gabby levels of stupidity.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1715 on: June 23, 2016, 12:42:40 PM »
Just read that Carlos Sanchez has also stated he's staying. At Championship level and with confidence, momentum and critically a better overall environment we will see much more from a players many of us had started to give up on. He's a good player and he can start to prove it with others like Okore next season and contribute to our promotion campaign.

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« Reply #1716 on: June 23, 2016, 12:59:48 PM »
Sanchez hasn't looked a player unless he's with Colombia so i'm not sure. But if he needs the Championship to show his level then okay, give him a season. I'd like to use the Okore money to fund either another defender or possibly an attacking midfielder though.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1717 on: June 23, 2016, 01:04:02 PM »
To me, the comments Okore has made publicly in the past suggest frustration and ambition, rather than disrespect.

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« Reply #1718 on: June 23, 2016, 01:26:44 PM »
Sanchez hasn't looked a player unless he's with Colombia so i'm not sure. But if he needs the Championship to show his level then okay, give him a season. I'd like to use the Okore money to fund either another defender or possibly an attacking midfielder though.

What money, he's in the last year of his deal and we were just relegated, if we got offers of £3-4m I'd be surprised.  double that and I'd agree with you but it's not going to happen so I just don't see how we come out of it with a better player if we let him go.

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« Reply #1719 on: June 23, 2016, 01:32:01 PM »
Sanchez hasn't looked a player unless he's with Colombia so i'm not sure. But if he needs the Championship to show his level then okay, give him a season. I'd like to use the Okore money to fund either another defender or possibly an attacking midfielder though.

I quite like Sanchez, but he is one of our more sellable assets so I would look to move him on and reinvest the fee. 

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« Reply #1720 on: June 23, 2016, 03:05:06 PM »
Sanchez hasn't looked a player unless he's with Colombia so i'm not sure. But if he needs the Championship to show his level then okay, give him a season. I'd like to use the Okore money to fund either another defender or possibly an attacking midfielder though.

What money, he's in the last year of his deal and we were just relegated, if we got offers of £3-4m I'd be surprised.  double that and I'd agree with you but it's not going to happen so I just don't see how we come out of it with a better player if we let him go.

Sell him and get whatever money we get for an adequate replacement if not in defence, in midfield. Being in the Championship we're not going to get many players of 10m+ joining us and in any case defenders are always cheaper.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1721 on: June 23, 2016, 03:54:31 PM »
Agree 100% passit but I would add only that many pea brained footballers have scaled the heights.  Paul Gascoigne is a typical example.  They have the ability to not use their tiny brains at all and let instinct take over.  Glen Hoddle is another.

Ah that's football intelligence. Bit like Rooney, they wouldn't be any good on mastermind but put them on a football pitch and they can see the play developing seconds before most of the team.

Richards certainly dosen't fall into that category. He's just relied on his physical strength and pace most of his career and now his body is failing him there's not a lot else there.

He was a total car crash at CB and not much better at RB. He's also maybe the highest paid player at the club so I'd get rid if we could.

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« Reply #1722 on: June 23, 2016, 06:10:55 PM »
Agree 100% passit but I would add only that many pea brained footballers have scaled the heights.  Paul Gascoigne is a typical example.  They have the ability to not use their tiny brains at all and let instinct take over.  Glen Hoddle is another.

Ah that's football intelligence. Bit like Rooney, they wouldn't be any good on mastermind but put them on a football pitch and they can see the play developing seconds before most of the team.

Richards certainly dosen't fall into that category. He's just relied on his physical strength and pace most of his career and now his body is failing him there's not a lot else there.

He was a total car crash at CB and not much better at RB. He's also maybe the highest paid player at the club so I'd get rid if we could.
Oh for sure. Richards has to go. 110%. No two ways about it. ASAP.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1723 on: June 23, 2016, 06:17:17 PM »
Agree 100% passit but I would add only that many pea brained footballers have scaled the heights.  Paul Gascoigne is a typical example.  They have the ability to not use their tiny brains at all and let instinct take over.  Glen Hoddle is another.

Ah that's football intelligence. Bit like Rooney, they wouldn't be any good on mastermind but put them on a football pitch and they can see the play developing seconds before most of the team.

Richards certainly dosen't fall into that category. He's just relied on his physical strength and pace most of his career and now his body is failing him there's not a lot else there.

He was a total car crash at CB and not much better at RB. He's also maybe the highest paid player at the club so I'd get rid if we could.
Oh for sure. Richards has to go. 110%. No two ways about it. ASAP.

We've too many shite players who don't see playing for Villa as a privilege. Bye to all of them. We need a bit of a revolution and this is the time.

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Re: Jores Okore
« Reply #1724 on: June 23, 2016, 10:09:54 PM »
Sanchez hasn't looked a player unless he's with Colombia so i'm not sure. But if he needs the Championship to show his level then okay, give him a season. I'd like to use the Okore money to fund either another defender or possibly an attacking midfielder though.

What money, he's in the last year of his deal and we were just relegated, if we got offers of £3-4m I'd be surprised.  double that and I'd agree with you but it's not going to happen so I just don't see how we come out of it with a better player if we let him go.

Sell him and get whatever money we get for an adequate replacement if not in defence, in midfield. Being in the Championship we're not going to get many players of 10m+ joining us and in any case defenders are always cheaper.

Other than having a caretaker manager blow an almost routine "why aren't I playing" discussion out of all proportion what's Okore done that's so foul and despicable to put him on a roll of dishonour with Agbonlahor & Richards.

Given how quick the club were to dish out fines to Agbonlahor at the end of last season, the lack of action on Okore's alleged dissent, which should have been easy enough to decide on, speaks volumes.

 


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