Jores Okore

[Leicester_Villian]

Has it been confirmed that Black has gone? Im sure he will have but I have not seen it

Why wouldn't he, we have new assistant manager and first team coach so what role would Black actually do?

Everybody who has gone its been announced but I don't recall seeing anything about Black

[peter w]

Black may be gone or maybe his new employers will consider keeping him if they think he was good at his actual job and not the one he did for 7 weeks or so.

[Dave]

Black may be gone or maybe his new employers will consider keeping him if they think he was good at his actual job and not the one he did for 7 weeks or so.

Is there a shred of evidence that he was good at anything in the time he was with us?

Yes, like lots of coaches and managers over the last few years he wasn't dealt a particulaly playable hand - but also like lots of them there is very little to point to, to suggest that he didn't make more of a pig's ear out of it all than he needed to.

[peter w]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

[paul_e]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Other than the fact that he joined just before the run that got Garde sacked started.  It's probably a coincidence but he joined just after the draw with the baggies and the 15 games that he was at the club ended up as 1w, 1d 13l - I see nothing from that to suggest he was doing a good job as a coach either.

[Steve67]

We are where we are because of systemic failings relating to poor decisions, poor players, poor coaches and manager's. The lot was rotten. Black, Garde, Fox, Lerner, Sherwood, TSM etc all shit.

[peter w]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Other than the fact that he joined just before the run that got Garde sacked started.  It's probably a coincidence but he joined just after the draw with the baggies and the 15 games that he was at the club ended up as 1w, 1d 13l - I see nothing from that to suggest he was doing a good job as a coach either.

I'm going on his reputation from before last season. Not many people came out with much credit but i don't think Black had time in his usual role to show much promise.

[Mister E]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Other than the fact that he joined just before the run that got Garde sacked started.  It's probably a coincidence but he joined just after the draw with the baggies and the 15 games that he was at the club ended up as 1w, 1d 13l - I see nothing from that to suggest he was doing a good job as a coach either.

I'm going on his reputation from before last season. Not many people came out with much credit but i don't think Black had time in his usual role to show much promise.

His career has been mainly as asst manager or first team coach. His appearance alongside Garde didn't appear to have any positive effect whatsoever; notwithstanding the fact that we were pretty terminal anyway.
His career could be summed up by the words 'journeyman in a world of mediocrity'.

[johnny from donny]

I seem to remember him saying he was off at the end of the season, perhaps when somebody asked a question in regards to pre season training

[paul_e]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Other than the fact that he joined just before the run that got Garde sacked started.  It's probably a coincidence but he joined just after the draw with the baggies and the 15 games that he was at the club ended up as 1w, 1d 13l - I see nothing from that to suggest he was doing a good job as a coach either.

I'm going on his reputation from before last season. Not many people came out with much credit but i don't think Black had time in his usual role to show much promise.

For another club you may be right, for us and as a measure of whether he's worth keeping I'd say anyone involved in the management and coaching who can be removed should be gone before pre-season, and thankfully that seems to be the case.  There might be some amongst them who can hold their head up high and go on to have a good career elsewhere but we need that clean break.

[Dave]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Well, apart from us being terrible at playing football for the whole time he was with us in any capacity.

There's that.

[Toronto Villa]

Eric Black proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he needs to find a new career. Because football management or even as a coach isn't something he should be trusted to do.

[mr underhill]

I agree - Eric Black, Football Manager/Coach must be the ultimate oxymoron.

[peter w]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Well, apart from us being terrible at playing football for the whole time he was with us in any capacity.

There's that.

If you ask an assistant manager or coach to step up when he's shown before that he's no good as a number one then you're asking for trouble. We were in a great deal of it anyway so the apple was already rotten to the core with maggots infesting it long before Black came on the managerial scene.

And, again, not sure what dynamic free flowing football people were expecting considering what Black had taken over from.

[malckennedy]

And there's no shred of evidence, as you say, that he wasn't doing well at his day-time job until he took over as manager.

Well, apart from us being terrible at playing football for the whole time he was with us in any capacity.

There's that.

If you ask an assistant manager or coach to step up when he's shown before that he's no good as a number one then you're asking for trouble. We were in a great deal of it anyway so the apple was already rotten to the core with maggots infesting it long before Black came on the managerial scene.

And, again, not sure what dynamic free flowing football people were expecting considering what Black had taken over from.

Not the point. His ridiculous team selections (Richardson ffs) and falling out with a keen and able player like Okore make him a dick. Little wonder he's achieved little or nothing in his "37 years experience in football".