Jores Okore

[Leicester_Villian]

Has it been confirmed that Black has gone? Im sure he will have but I have not seen it

[Villa in Denmark]

The injury prone / touch of the Vlaars thing. Is that real or perception?

To my knowledge he did his ACL in his first season in a "could happen to anyone" challenge.
Missed the rest of the season and start of the next. Came back and ended playing whilst injured which complicated the planned clean up surgery that was set up to tidy up scar tissue in the knee from the ACL repair.
That caused him to miss the start of last season but after his return he missed 2 games around Christmas.

Other than that any games he's missed have either been selection choices or Black trying to play Billy Big Bollocks.

So 1 serious injury followed by1 enforced absence then a couple of games last season.

Also worth noting that this will be the first summer he'll have had a proper pre-season since his first season which must also have some effect.

[footyskillz]

With due respect okore could have ideas above his station or had been 'advised' badly but in the run in he did little to suggest he should remain.  His perceived attitude and remarks in media didn't help and i think hutton and Westwood ,despite faults, along with ayew really did anything of note and pride in those sorry remaining matches.
Now he may show his true colours with the changes in place and maybe a more positive vibe but if he doesn't get rid. Clark baker and elphick are steady add in okore if he behaves or another then all good.  I suspect we look to sign another and lose one or 2 lescott also.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

not fussed either way about him

i have seen nothing to suggest that he is anything more than an average defender who cannot read the game

with a year left on his contract i would cash in

[SoccerHQ]

Has it been confirmed that Black has gone? Im sure he will have but I have not seen it

Why wouldn't he, we have new assistant manager and first team coach so what role would Black actually do?

[Clark W Griswold]

Has it been confirmed that Black has gone? Im sure he will have but I have not seen it

Why wouldn't he, we have new assistant manager and first team coach so what role would Black actually do?

Clean the bogs?

I like the comment from Okores agent 'Jores is absolutely prepared to give it another go'. Well wow, thanks Jores we should be honoured I'm sure.

[London Villan]

So if we have a run of bad results and he is dropped will he moan again? Sell him. Now is the time to rid the club of all the questionable characters.

[Ads]

I don't think it's as simple as that. The fall out was with Black. He has played on one leg for us before so I don't think it was as straight forward as him refusing to play because he couldn't be arsed.

[not3bad]

I think he's going to stay.

[Ads]

Does everybody think Elphick, Clark, Baker, Okore and Toner will be good enough?

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Does everybody think Elphick, Clark, Baker, Okore and Toner will be good enough?

More than enough and more than good enough for the Chumps league. They'll have a full season to show if they're good enough for the Prem. with a decent coaching set-up.

[chrisw1]

If Elphick stays fit and has a good season I can see him and Okore being a very strong partnership.

[paul_e]

Does everybody think Elphick, Clark, Baker, Okore and Toner will be good enough?

More than enough and more than good enough for the Chumps league. They'll have a full season to show if they're good enough for the Prem. with a decent coaching set-up.

I agree, it's a season long trial for Baker, Clark and Okore to see if they're good enough to keep for our return to the premier league (all being well).  Toner will stay regardless and I think Elphick will be given at least another year but I wouldn't be surprised if 1 or 2 of the others end up getting replaced. I'd rather do that as a premier league club on the back of a successful promotion season than having just been relegated though.

[peter w]

Not just because I want Okore gone but I'd prefer another centre- half in there as well as Elphick. I don't think Toner is anywhere near the standard required, not yet anyhow, so wouldn't risk going with what we have.

[passitsideways]

I think we can afford to wait until January and then re-evaluate - the sense I get it is that by that time, PL clubs are more ready to loan out backup defenders who can't get a game for whatever reason.