Jores Okore

[Mister E]

If you were Okare and you had put your career on the line while playing with major injury problems then you would feel rather pissed off that you couldn't get into the team later on and feel the "club" owed you similar loyalty. However similarly if your Black, you'd have to say he owed Okare no such loyalty as he wasn't here then.  That's just how it goes in real life. You put yourself out for the management while others don't and your back to square one when a new guy comes in. Welcome to real life Jores

or was it that Okore was upset that Richards was getting in ahead of him, somebody who looked as though he didn't give a f***.

Okore deserves another shot at the CB shirt, IMHO. And at the Villa.

[in exile]

If you were Okare and you had put your career on the line while playing with major injury problems then you would feel rather pissed off that you couldn't get into the team later on and feel the "club" owed you similar loyalty. However similarly if your Black, you'd have to say he owed Okare no such loyalty as he wasn't here then.  That's just how it goes in real life. You put yourself out for the management while others don't and your back to square one when a new guy comes in. Welcome to real life Jores

or was it that Okore was upset that Richards was getting in ahead of him, somebody who looked as though he didn't give a f***.

Okore deserves another shot at the CB shirt, IMHO. And at the Villa.

But does he want one, at the Villa?

[PeterWithesShin]

I reckon another reason Okore will go in the summer is he'll be in the last year of his contract so we'll want to sell.

[Ads]

I don't think we will sell both Clark and Okore, who, with the addition of a strong right sided and dominant centre half, would give us a good unit at that level.

[Villa in Denmark]

I don't think we will sell both Clark and Okore, who, with the addition of a strong right sided and dominant centre half, would give us a good unit at that level.

Okore is right sided.

Keep him and we'd need a left sided starter.

[PeterWithesShin]

Even if he stays we need a quality player as cover as he misses so many games. 36 starts in 3 seasons with us, he obviously can't help injuries but i'd worry how he would cope with a 46 league game season.

[Villa in Denmark]

Even if he stays we need a quality player as cover as he misses so many games. 36 starts in 3 seasons with us, he obviously can't help injuries but i'd worry how he would cope with a 46 league game season.

It's a fair point.

The only thing I'd say is how many starts did he miss out on when he was actually match fit because Lambert/Sherwood/Black chose another partnership.

Also this is the first summer since the summer he joined where he's not recovering from surgery and can actually have a full pre-season, but regardless we'll need decent cover.

Regardless of their footballing prowess we certainly couldn't start the season with Okore and Baker as first choice pairing without having a bloody good plan B in place.

[brontebilly]

I reckon another reason Okore will go in the summer is he'll be in the last year of his contract so we'll want to sell.

and he aint going to play 46 games next season, definitely one to cut

new right sided centre back needed

I've seen Shane Duffy play a few times this year for Ireland, monster in the air played well next to Clark in one game

both of those in a partnership might be a bit slow on the turn but sit them deep and we would be fine

[N'ZMAV]

I'd sell Okore, he's got a good reputation for some reason. So, I'm thinking he's one of very few we might get some money for - not much though as he's only got 12 months left on his deal. He's not as good as he thinks he is. He's a mid-table Premier League player at best. Maybe that's pushing it a bit too...

[Villa in Denmark]

I reckon another reason Okore will go in the summer is he'll be in the last year of his contract so we'll want to sell.

and he aint going to play 46 games next season, definitely one to cut

new right sided centre back needed

I've seen Shane Duffy play a few times this year for Ireland, monster in the air played well next to Clark in one game

both of those in a partnership might be a bit slow on the turn but sit them deep and we would be fine

How many will play 46 league games next season, other than a definite 1st choice goalkeeper?

I'd say with injuries and suspensions anyone getting to 40 will have done well.

It's not like he's a Darren Anderton play 3 miss 4 type. I'd guess that well over 40 of the games he's missed through injury have either been the original cruciate injury or the follow-up surgery being more complicated than it needed to be.

[Ads]

I don't think we will sell both Clark and Okore, who, with the addition of a strong right sided and dominant centre half, would give us a good unit at that level.

Okore is right sided.

Keep him and we'd need a left sided starter.

He doesn't play enough games in a row. I'd have Clark and a newbie as the starting pair.

[django]

For all sorts of reasons I'd really have liked Okore to have worked out. But it has't really, even before the incident with Eric Black. He's looked ok at times and prone to errors at others, which puts him in the Baker and Clark category, except seemingly with a worse attitude.

[brontebilly]

I reckon another reason Okore will go in the summer is he'll be in the last year of his contract so we'll want to sell.

and he aint going to play 46 games next season, definitely one to cut

new right sided centre back needed

I've seen Shane Duffy play a few times this year for Ireland, monster in the air played well next to Clark in one game

both of those in a partnership might be a bit slow on the turn but sit them deep and we would be fine

How many will play 46 league games next season, other than a definite 1st choice goalkeeper?

I'd say with injuries and suspensions anyone getting to 40 will have done well.

It's not like he's a Darren Anderton play 3 miss 4 type. I'd guess that well over 40 of the games he's missed through injury have either been the original cruciate injury or the follow-up surgery being more complicated than it needed to be.

36 games in 3 years would suggest he is a Darren Anderton type without the ability

car crash of a defender positionally, his last game v Liverpool he was arguably our worst player which took some doing

sure injuries have checked his progress, the absymal coaching at AVFC hasnt helped but he hasnt progressed at all and seemingly has a diabolical attitude to boot

if someone comes in for him offering a few million then we shouldnt think twice about cashing in

[Villa in Denmark]

You've missed the point (or ignored it.)

Go through the games he hasn't started.

He didn't start the 1st 4 or 5 when he joined as Vlaar had got the shirt.

He got in and did his ACL in his 3rd game? And was out until the following October.
He waited his turn to get back in and played pretty consistently, mainly around Vlaars fitness.
He needed routine follow up surgery to clean up scar tissue from the ACL repair which was complicated by him having played against advice leading to him not being available until late September. As far as I recall he missed 2 games due to a niggle over Christmas last season. Everything else has been selection choices.

I can't be bothered to do the reconciliation between teamsheets and physioroom or similar, but I'll wager that the total number of games he's missed due to "knocks and niggles" as opposed to selection issues or the 2 ACL surgeries is not far removed from the average for a centre back.


He'll make a great moneyball signing for someone.

[phantom limb]

Okore and Clark was probably our best centre back partnership of the last few seasons, I think it would be folly to just turf him out. I'd rather Black went if anybody.