Jores Okore

[Villa in Denmark]

No action against him according to reports tonight.

Where have you seen that?

[Villa in Denmark]

I think Okore will want out regardless of what happens with this bollocks standoff with Black. He'll fancy himself as too good for the championship. The reality is, a year down there would actually make him a better player and he's not Premiership level as things stand.

Despite the fact that that's the opposite of what he said?

Did he say that though? I thought he just said that playing in the Championship won't necessarily harm his chances of playing for Denmark rather than him either being happy to play in it.

The international football thing might not be 180^o opposed to thinking he's too good to play in the Championship, but it's a bit of an open goal to use as an excuse to start agitating for a move if you really think it's a bit beneath you.

Anyway the full quote went further than that.

No, you know that there already players from the Championship in the Denmark squads, so from that point of view, playing in the Championship won’t necessarily hurt my chances. It’s more about getting as much playing time as possible, so if I’m not getting much playing time now and we keep the same squad, it’ll probably be difficult to get playing time in the Championship as well. We’ll have to see how a new manager sees things, when he is eventually appointed.

So basically the same line of thinking as when he turned down Chelsea 6 months before he joined us. It's all about playing time, on the surface at least.
I seem to remember he was always in Lambert's ear about what did he have to do to get a game when he cane back from his cruciate injury as well.

[edgysatsuma89]

No action against him according to reports tonight.

Given what Black said, that to me implies that there's absolutely no communication or mutual trust between the management and board. Everything seems worlds apart. The players to management, the management to board, the board to Randy. I'm fully expecting no action to be taken against Gabby either. If we've not taken action against Okore then it must mean Black was talking out of his arse (because if a player does refuse to play action MUST be taken). So surely Black has to go...
My head hurts...trying to fathom this club is like trying to explain time travel plot holes in shit sci-fi films.

This is my thoughts as well. If he has refused to be chosen then surely that warrants a fine or something.

I know Tevez was slightly different as he was on the bench and then refused, but did he get fined?

[anton hillman]

He's refusing to work. Sack him.

[kippaxvilla2]

This Villa defender has been speaking to overseas media

Aston Villa defender Jores Okore has admitted this could be “an end to it all” for him at the club.

The Dane, talking to Ekstra Bladet, says he’s planning on remaining in the Premier League for the forthcoming campaign.

The centre-half, a Paul Lambert signing who arrived from Nordsjælland in 2013, wants to be a regular in the top flight.

“A new start? Now we have changed the coach five times in the time I’ve been at the club,” Okore said.

The latest on a new manager

“This can also be an end to it all for me at Aston Villa.

“If I was 29-30-years-old, the situation would probably have been different.

“I am 23-years-old and will play football every weekend. I expect and I hope that is also going to happen in the future.”

Regarding the fall-out with Eric Black, when the interim boss claimed Okore had refused to play, the 23-year-old has revealed the Villa could fine him.

“I know that the club is currently considering the situation and a possible consequence is that I can be fined for what happened,” he added.

[maigrait]

Thanks Okore... don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.

[kippaxvilla2]

The thing I find most astonishing about our current crop's attitude is their completely delusional state.  He has just been part of a team that has finished on the 3rd worst points total in the post 1992 PL era and yet he thinks he can just waltz into another PL side and play every week because he is 23.  Oh and awfully nice to suggest that we could be one last pay cheque for him if he was 29.

[Ron Manager]

Mr Okore. Along with Mr Lescott,Mr Guzan,and Mr Bacuna you are not quite as disliked as Mr Richards and Mr Agbonlahor. You are ,however,making a tremendous effort to join this sainted pair.

[Toronto Villa]

What's he said wrong? He wants to play every week and as a club we've had five managers in his time at the club. The club is fucked more than the player. Let's get that fixed so players actually want play for us. What happened last year was abysmal on every level. Not saying Okore couldn't have done more because they all could have but the circumstances around him didn't make it easy. And Black can go fuck himself too and take Bacuna and Richardson with him.

[kipeye]

What's he said wrong? He wants to play every week and as a club we've had five managers in his time at the club. The club is fucked more than the player. Let's get that fixed so players actually want play for us. What happened last year was abysmal on every level. Not saying Okore couldn't have done more because they all could have but the circumstances around him didn't make it easy. And Black can go fuck himself too and take Bacuna and Richardson with him.

Seems about right to me.

[LeeB]

What's he said wrong? He wants to play every week and as a club we've had five managers in his time at the club. The club is fucked more than the player. Let's get that fixed so players actually want play for us. What happened last year was abysmal on every level. Not saying Okore couldn't have done more because they all could have but the circumstances around him didn't make it easy. And Black can go fuck himself too and take Bacuna and Richardson with him.

"I'm not going on the bench" is what he said wrong, and regardless of our general ineptitude for that he can get to fuck.

[Toronto Villa]

Which he refuted of course and we have to believe Black on that. Or at least we don't have Okore's full version of events.

[LeeB]

I think it's not too hard to join the dots when you consider his recent musings.

Look, I liked him and think he's been a little hard done by, but I see absolutely no reason to disbelieve Black.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

And we can't just judge each individual on last season, just as we can't expect to line them all up against a (figurative) wall and shoot them. Some we'll have to keep, some we'll need to keep. Only a new manager with a new way of trying to create a team can do that. We have no real idea of what the dynamics of the coaching/management/playing staff were. We just saw the results. I refuse to believe all the players are shit.

Unless, of course, you're one of the special few with an insiders knowledge of their skills and attitude.

[Dave]

I think it's not too hard to join the dots when you consider his recent musings.

Look, I liked him and think he's been a little hard done by, but I see absolutely no reason to disbelieve Black.

That he has spent a large chunk of two years on our bench, under three different managers with few complaints.

A week after Black is put in charge and apparently he's going on strike because he's been asked to do the same thing that he's been doing for most of the season?

Not for me Clive.