Jores Okore

[brontebilly]

Wasn't his last game v Liverpool?

That's the last I recall of him anyway, displayed the defensive prowess of a toothless drunk the same day

Taking responsibility for their performances is an alien concept for these pr*cks

[paul_e]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

[supertom]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

Well Okore has spoken out in the press. So has his agent. If it wasn't true they'd have said by now. They haven't denied that he's refused to play. If I were a player and a manager made a claim like that wasn't true, I'd be wanting to set the record straight and take legal action for defamation.

[sickbeggar]

Aye. Black has nothing to gain by saying this. He knows he's not getting the job and he can chuck half the squad in the bin and they'll all be re-instated by the time he gets his p45 in May.. He's been pretty diplomatic in how he's described Okore's behaviour. No major slagging off just "read between the lines - this is what i'm dealing with"

[Risso]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

That's about where I'm at Paul.  It doesn't look good re the apparent refusal to play, but to be honest everything is SUCH a car crash, that I think we need to start again with a clean slate come next season.  Obviously the clean slate doesn't go for Agbonlahor, Richards or Lescott, the set of absolute wankspanners.

[Mister E]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

I must admit these were my first thoughts when I heard.

[sickbeggar]

I just don't see how you can dictate to your boss when you work. We all like to think we're better than so and so at a job and that may be true, but to withdraw labour shows a guy with an over-inflated ego and if he wasn't a professional footballer he'd have been shown the door already

[RonBurgundy]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

That's about where I'm at Paul.  It doesn't look good re the apparent refusal to play, but to be honest everything is SUCH a car crash, that I think we need to start again with a clean slate come next season.  Obviously the clean slate doesn't go for Agbonlahor, Richards or Lescott, the set of absolute wankspanners.

Wankspanners - my new favourite word; and very fitting for key members of the playing squad.

[kieron]

"I refuse to play?, I was on the bench against Chelsea and the games before, why didn't I refuse to play those games?"

"There must be more to it then MR. Eric Black is telling you!"

From Mr Okore on Twitter a few moments ago.

[Toronto Villa]

Yep he's fighting back. And if what Black says isn't true then he should be. Furthermore if what Black said isn't true he should be canned because he certainly shouldn't be saying what he did publicly about a player.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I take Okore's word over Black's. Its not even close. We have a player here who, you know, WANTS to play for Aston Villa instead of wanting nothing to do with us. On the other hand we have Eric Black, a man who seems obsessed with failure and cannot envision a scenario where Aston Villa might win but give shimself a pat on the back after each loss.

[paul_e]

I personally don't believe the account of this that Black has given, I just don't see Okore refusing to be on the bench.  I do however see him telling black that he's been our best defender this season when he's played and that he deserves to be starting games. We don't see training but I really can't imagine players who can't give a shit on the pitch are training better than a player who has generally put a shift in every time he's played.

I get the impression that Black has decided that the right approach is to pick the most experienced team he can irrespective of anything else, so the likes of Traore, Grealish, Okore all get either left on the bench or ignored completely.  I firmly believe that he'd have Gabby in ahead of Ayew if he hadn't been such a dick for the last couple of months.

On this basis I'm just going to ignore the comments made by Black and keep Okore in my list of players to build the squad around next season.  He's even, in the interview ViD linked, outright stated that he wouldn't be against playing in the championship if he can get some guaranteed game time (which is what he really needs).  Him, Baker and Amavi is 3 of a good back 4 for next season, just get a decent modern right back who can cross a ball and we'll be in a decent place with the defence.

Well Okore has spoken out in the press. So has his agent. If it wasn't true they'd have said by now. They haven't denied that he's refused to play. If I were a player and a manager made a claim like that wasn't true, I'd be wanting to set the record straight and take legal action for defamation.

"I refuse to play?, I was on the bench against Chelsea and the games before, why didn't I refuse to play those games?"

"There must be more to it then MR. Eric Black is telling you!"

From Mr Okore on Twitter a few moments ago.

That was good timing. - sorry about the smiley but it really does fit here.

I have no idea exactly what was said but I just don't trust the judgement of someone who was hoping that Keiron fucking Richardson was going to be fit and on that basis alone Okore gets the benefit of the doubt.

[john2710]

I take Okore's word over Black's. Its not even close.

Really! I don't think anyone, unless directly involved can say who is telling the truth. What is certain is Black won't be here next season & Okore will most likely be gone too. To be honest I don't give a fuck about either of them.

Black been dealt a shit hand & is making things worse.
Okore can't get in a team that has the worst defence in living memory.

[pauliewalnuts]

Okore should be keeping his fucking head down and doing his job.

He's achieved absolutely nothing to earn the right to be saying whether he will or will not play.

He's just another one of the absolute sea of c***s stinking out this basket case club.

[Steve67]

Okore should be keeping his fucking head down and doing his job.

He's achieved absolutely nothing to earn the right to be saying whether he will or will not play.

He's just another one of the absolute sea of c***s stinking out this basket case club.

Don't hold back Paulie, let it all out!