Jores Okore

[Dave]

It seems that Black is doing everything the previous managers should have done.

Didn't Garde do exactly this with Grealish and Gabby?

[peter w]

Leave him to rot in the reserves unless we can find a player. Actually, no, the reserves shouldn't have to play with the shyster. If he is refusing to play surely there is some financial sanction against him?

[Villa in Denmark]

Ah another whose attitude appears to stink. Considering how we stood by him through injuries that's pretty poor.

I will never understand that approach or argument.

He got injured playing for us. Quite apart from the fact that it's in our interests to get him fit and playing again, either to benefit the first team or return him to being a saleable asset, there's what I'd consider to be a normal employer's duty of care, whereby if you get injured in the course of your normal duties, I'd expect the employer to help return an employee to fit for work.

And that's before you get into the second operation being more involved due to playing when he shouldn't have at the end of last season.

All that said, he's really made a twat of himself here. From what you hear of him other here he comes across as quite down to earth. Either that's a sham or he's been spending too long with Flabby and Richard$.

[supertom]

It seems that Black is doing everything the previous managers should have done.

Didn't Garde do exactly this with Grealish and Gabby?

I think the major problem is that so many of our players are sacks of shit with appalling attitudes. Our squad is so thin on quality and our fitness and injury record so wretched that inevitably these said pieces of shit have to be called upon to come back into the team, just as Garde had to do when we were left with no option than to bring Gabby back. But when Randy appears not to care in the least bit, it filters down to the squad and Gabby is the most influential player at the club. He gets paid a huge amount and gets rewarded with new contracts without doing anything to warrant it.

We've got to tear the whole squad up and start again. Guzan, Okore, Richards, Lescott, Bacuna, Gana, Sinclair and Gabby to name a few have to go. The squad is poisonous. There's not a manager on Earth who could work under these conditiions where we've had an acceptence of losing and players who don't care enough about the results. They step onto the pitch and it's "enough."

[supertom]

For the record, Okore is shit. He makes mistakes every game and he's only good if someone is there to babysit him. Fuck him off. Another waste of time and money.

[supertom]

Leave him to rot in the reserves unless we can find a player. Actually, no, the reserves shouldn't have to play with the shyster. If he is refusing to play surely there is some financial sanction against him?

It has to be grounds for sacking him. He's not fulfilling his contract, so why can't we tear it up?

[peter w]

I wouldn't sack him but try and get some money back by selling him. Don't let him play and train separately, but nowhere near the players. Sacking him would play into his hands although the counter argument would be that it would be more poisonous keeping him any near players.

[SheffieldVillain]

This is exactly the problem with having arseholes as senior pros. The younger players start to think they can get away with it too.

I like Okore and I rate him, but if that's his attitude, see you later.

[supertom]

I wouldn't sack him but try and get some money back by selling him. Don't let him play and train separately, but nowhere near the players. Sacking him would play into his hands although the counter argument would be that it would be more poisonous keeping him any near players.

I don't think we'd get much for him to be honest. I can't see people queuing up. I think the club is going to have to take a hit on most of the poisonous lot just to get rid of them. Then we can look at cashing in on some of the other players like Traore and Ayew who will probably have takers. Although in Traores case we'll be lucky to get half back what we paid for him. But given his wages we have to take what we can get. It's a shame as I'd like to keep him. But we can't be paying 60k a week for raw potential.

[garyshawsknee]

The way he has played this season, I wish he had made this decision in August.

[supertom]

The way he has played this season, I wish he had made this decision in August.

Same here. He's a nightmare to watch. He has the physical attributes, but short of Richards he's the most positionally awful defender we've had at the club for ages and he runs around like a randy spaniel most of the time.

[Rigadon]

Goodbye you injury / mistake prone nobody.

[chrisw1]

I think he'll become a very decent player for someone.  But refusing to play is unforgivable and Black has done the right thing.  Won't help our sell on price though.

[kippaxvilla2]

Another average player who thinks he has divine right to play.  Terrible attitude get rid.

[PeterWithesShin]

What a wanker. Surely if he doesn't want to play we can refuse to pay him?